Lumpy Money: The Playlist

Now that Lumpy Money orders are officially being shipped, I’ve added this 3 disc release to the discography pages. As ever, the Mighty Wiki has more background info. If anyone has had a chance to give this one a listen, feel free to leave a comment — here or at the discog page.

85 Responses to “Lumpy Money: The Playlist”

  1. abe says:

    disc 1 is great. though WOIIFTM isn’t “uncensored.” why disc 2? 84 remixes i don’t know. track one on disc 3 is superb. AHHHH, Frank!

  2. urbangraffito says:

    A quote from abe:

    disc 1 is great. though WOIIFTM isn’t “uncensored.” why disc 2? 84 remixes i don’t know. track one on disc 3 is superb. AHHHH, Frank!

    Kind of sounds like filler material, to me (I mean, why include versions that most Zappa collectors already have in their collection?). Or am I wrong?

  3. Norske says:

    The ’84 mix of LM has never been released.

    Overall, I am extremely happy with this release, especially the disc 1 LM and disc 3 (track one is amazing).

  4. Norske says:

    D’oh! LM was meant to be LG (lumpy gravy) in the post above. I’ve had LM on my mind…..brain virus.

  5. vince says:

    Just saw pic’s at the Zappa forum…….
    ….. uh, a little cheesey!

    How big is the booklet?

  6. the school of spock says:

    looks like they worked hard on the lumpy money cd truly as old ethel
    bannister is saying a pice of music history:)

  7. abe says:

    booklet is 34 pages pics and words. fricke’s liner notes are great. GZ’s are GZ’s. Disc 2 is a one listen wonder. Disc 1 and 3 are definitely repeat listens. it is very sad to know i will never hear “new” Frank music, only never heard before music. if that makes any sense. but none the less, I am happy with this release. the thing is to put a motor in yourself and get this release!

  8. vince says:

    Well, of course, once we get the DRY motor, we’re gonna want the WET motor, too!

  9. tim says:

    hey, any problems removing the discs from the package?!

  10. Rick Wood says:

    Tim, if there’s trouble, let’s hope we break different discs!

  11. tim says:

    you gotta deal.

  12. abe says:

    nope. no problem removing discs. easy peasy japenesy. rather, almost chinese.

  13. Empire Hancock says:

    A quote from abe:

    why disc 2?

    Why not? They’re Frank’s work, take them or leave them. The LG remix has never been released and the WOIIFTM remix has been out of print.

  14. Empire Hancock says:

    A quote from urbangraffito:

    A quote from abe:

    disc 1 is great. though WOIIFTM isn’t “uncensored.” why disc 2? 84 remixes i don’t know. track one on disc 3 is superb. AHHHH, Frank!

    Kind of sounds like filler material, to me (I mean, why include versions that most Zappa collectors already have in their collection?). Or am I wrong?

    You must be wrong. I mean, since you asked. What filler are we talking about here?

    I disagree with the “some people are in possession of this because it was circulated amongst collectors, therefore it is stupid to release it on cd” mentality quite a bit. Do “most” Zappa collectors really own a mono WOIIFTM? It’s not like everyone who has bought or will buy Lumpy Money has already heard the original iteration of LG, either.

  15. jane23 says:

    Why would anyone want a mono version of anything???

  16. amicus says:

    A quote from urbangraffito:

    Kind of sounds like filler material, to me (I mean, why include versions that most Zappa collectors already have in their collection?). Or am I wrong?

    “Filler Material”? What a fucking EMBARASSMENT this guy is…………….

  17. Paul Sempschi says:

    the 80’s mix of WOIIFTM is a bit of a shame… it is somewhat rare but surely there are more pertinent unreleased material they could have put on it. Not to mention it is pretty much universally loathed by the Zappa community.
    I guess the Lumpy Gravy 80’s edit is nice to have, for compleationists…

  18. brett says:

    A quote from Paul Sempschi:

    the 80’s mix of WOIIFTM is a bit of a shame… it is somewhat rare but surely there are more pertinent unreleased material they could have put on it. Not to mention it is pretty much universally loathed by the Zappa community.
    I guess the Lumpy Gravy 80’s edit is nice to have, for compleationists…

    I now enjoy the 80s remixes. I even think a couple of songs song better with the new bass and drums. The Lumpy Money remastering makes it sound much better than it did before. Of course, I wouldn’t want that to be the ONLY version of WOIIFTM available.

    As far as WOIIFTM goes, the ZFT is releasing whatever versions they can. They can’t do a remaster of the stereo version, since Ryko owns it (I’m guessing). That’s why they remastered a MONO version of WOIIFTM. And since they have the 80s remixes in their possession, why not release them? My only question is why the Lumpy Gravy orchestral version is in MONO.

  19. Empire Hancock says:

    A quote from Paul Sempschi:

    the 80’s mix of WOIIFTM is a bit of a shame…

    I guess the Lumpy Gravy 80’s edit is nice to have, for compleationists…

    If one is, then they both are.

    No one really wants to take the 84 remix of WOIIFTM on it’s own merits; instead, it’s routinely dogged in comparisons to the original. Maybe I hear the remix a little differently, having heard it first and at a younger age, 3 or 4 years before knowing it was any different from the original (sure, maybe I should have thought “would a 1967 recording really sound like this”, but how much would that have occured to you at the age of 12?)

    As for why the Capitol LG is in mono on Lumpy Money, the explanation is probably pretty simple. I think had a stereo master been found, it would have been used. You have to think there’s a chance it doesn’t exist at this point.

    The liner notes *seem* to mention that Joe Travers got his hands on the 8 track masters of the WOIIFTM sessions. Whether that means that the complete and “uncensored” versions of all the songs from the album exists on said masters, I don’t know, but it certainly caught my eye when reading the notes.

  20. bubba-ho-tep says:

    There was a mention at some point of a companion release to Lumpy Money. Uncensored versions perhaps???

  21. Empire Hancock says:

    A quote from bubba-ho-tep:

    There was a mention at some point of a companion release to Lumpy Money. Uncensored versions perhaps???

    I hope the follow-up release does have it. Frankly, I don’t care what’s on it, I’ll still buy it. But more variants of WOIIFTM tracks would be welcome.

    I don’t know what albums they are and are not planning to do these 4tieth anniv. editions of, but if they want to do Hot Rats, for example, they better get cracking. It’s already 2009. I’d love to see what they could pull out of their asses relating to Uncle Meat, as well.

  22. Virgil Proudfoot says:

    Be careful when talking about the “censoring” of WOIIFTM. The original release had some chunks cut out and backwards at MGM’s insistence, but these edits were done BY FZ HIMSELF. Subsequent releases had different bits chopped out entirely by some butcher at the record company, NOT BY FZ.

    So, although you could say the original release, which appears here in the mono version, is “censored” or not, depending on whether your definition of “censoring” includes something physically done by FZ himself (albeit at the record company’s insistence).

    In that respect, the 1984 version is in fact uncensored, featuring the previously backwards naughty bits, for example “Shut your fucking mouth about the length of my hair,” etc.) in “Mother People,” in place and running in the correct sequence. But then of course there are those awful drums and bass.

  23. Virgil Proudfoot says:

    In addition, I always thought Frank including those naughty bits backwards on the original release of WOIIFTM was really a sort of integral part of the whole album, being a creative response to what a tight-assed American record company in the late 1960s wanted to do with such an amazing burst of creative energy.

  24. Steve says:

    Backwards music probably didn’t start with “Rain” by the Beatles in the summer of 1965 but basically afterwards I always felt backwards stuff was a cue to the ’60’s. Put another way, when I first heard WOIIFTM in 1968 I just assumed the backwards stuff was a send up of the Beatles in the first place, not really self-censorship.

  25. xorg says:

    Being somewhat long in the tooth and having bought FZ stuff since 1966, I’ve already got the 1968 mono version on LP, and I’ve got the 1984 UMRK remixes too on CD. I have a bootleg of the Capitol LG, although in poor quality. So I’m trying to persuade myself that this release is worth it for disc 3. I would be grateful for your advice!

  26. Empire Hancock says:

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