New Frank Zappa Release: Philly ’76

Zappa: Philly 76

Here’s the email announcement, and here’s the pre-order page.

The internet largely agrees this 2 Disc release is the Spectrum Theater in Philadelphia show from 29 October 1976. The band: FZ, Bozzio, Ray White, Patrick O’Hearn, Eddie Jobson and Bianca Thornton.

Tracklist:

  1. The Purple Lagoon
  2. Stinkfoot
  3. The Poodle Lecture
  4. Dirty Love
  5. Wind Up Workin’ In A Gas Station
  6. Tryin’ To Grow A Chin
  7. The Torture Never Stops
  8. City Of Tiny Lights (incl. The Sanzini Brothers Piramid Trick)
  9. You Didn’t Try To Call Me
  10. Manx Needs Women
  11. Titties ‘n Beer
  12. Black Napkins
  13. Advance Romance
  14. Honey Don’t You Want A Man Like Me?
  15. Rudy Wants To Buy Yez A Drink
  16. Would You Go All The Way?
  17. Daddy Daddy Daddy
  18. What Kind Of Girl Do You Think We Are?
  19. Dinah-Moe Humm
  20. The Purple Lagoon
  21. Stranded In The Jungle
  22. Find Her Finer
  23. Camarillo Brillo
  24. Muffin Man
  25. The Purple Lagoon

This does look to be a good one, priced at $30…

79 Responses to “New Frank Zappa Release: Philly ’76”

  1. Thinman says:

    “Another fabulous mix from Mr. Filipetti.”

    Is that a bug or a feature?

  2. Compulsive Sterbus says:

    I definitely think that I WANT IT.

  3. Compulsive Sterbus says:

    I did’nt know you were all experts texperts on mixing and mastering…

  4. Noam says:

    I think there’s partial video footage of this show in Over-Nite Sensation & Apostrophe Classic Albums documentary.

  5. urbangraffito says:

    Like the Buffalo CD, a too long unrepresented line-up finally gets the spotlight. I will definitely be ordering this.

  6. basharoni says:

    yeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh lets get 10 of that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the bag and the shopping cart too……………………thank you gail 🙂

  7. Rob says:

    I’d just like to echo what basharoni said; Thank you, Gail! We (we know who we are) are sometimes quick to post negative comments about her and the family. But if this is only half as good as I hope it will be, then I’m prepared to forgive the very looooooooooong time it takes to bring out the Roxy material. (And then, if the Roxy DVD finally showes up, I’ll personally write to the Nobel committee about GZ …)

  8. Jamez says:

    A quote from Noam:

    I think there’s partial video footage of this show in Over-Nite Sensation & Apostrophe Classic Albums documentary.

    Yeah, it’s Bianca singin’ Dirty Love, I wish there was more!

  9. Paul Sempschi says:

    if the bootleg is accurate, Jobson really frolics through an epic rendition of Black Napkins. And Bianca on You Didnt Try to Call Me was heavenly…

    Kudos to the ZFT for releasing it, I cant wait for the torrent

    😉

  10. Martin Heidegger says:

    I always wanted another version of “Honey Don’t You Want A Man Like Me” and it makes me extremely happy to see that the ZFT have answered my prayers!

  11. Robert says:

    A quote from Martin Heidegger:

    I always wanted another version of “Honey Don’t You Want A Man Like Me” and it makes me extremely happy to see that the ZFT have answered my prayers!

    This piece alwas made me yawn. But maybe this version is different…

  12. Bálint says:

    It’s interesting to think of this show as a brother of Zappa In New York, minus the horns. The Purple Lagoon, The Torture Never Stops, Manx Needs Women, Titties ‘n Beer, Black Napkins, Honey Don’t You Want A Man Like Me? – it will be interesting to make comparisons between the versions of these songs, on two (hopefully) high quality recordings.

  13. Thinman says:

    I thought that ZINY contains sections from concerts without the horns and everything.

    ZINY is from two groups of shows. One group has to be the core band and the other one the additional musicians. Most parts of HDYWAMLM? must be the core band only (the mallets might be overdubbed). TIEB must be mostly from core band shows also (horns only present during the Don Pardo intro).

    I would have to do internet research to find some info on the ZINY-sources.

    I might be wrong, though.

    Th.

  14. Thinman says:

    The infos on

    http://www.globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Zappa_In_New_York.html
    http://www.globalia.net/donlope/fz/chronology/1976-1980.html

    suggest, that the augmented lineup is present on all ZINY dates.

    Hmm … any other infos?

  15. peter says:

    A quote from Paul Sempschi:

    Kudos to the ZFT for releasing it, I cant wait for the torrent

    😉

    tee hee. you’re so radical, dude.

  16. vince says:

    How ‘straight’ is “Stranded In The Jungle”?

  17. Harry Barris says:

    My favorite tape from this tour is Chicago Auditorium, Nov. 25, after Bianca had already left the group. It has a looser, impromptu jamming quality along with a great Pound For A Brown (& guitar solo) since there had become less emphasis on vocals (and oldies). This is also the last show before the next revised line-up for the SNL tapings, etc.

    Still waiting for some live ’73 (the dvd?!?)–or even 1974–or maybe some early ’75 with Beefheart… ???

  18. P-Rip says:

    Thirty dollars? THIRTY DOLLARS!!!??? I don’t intend to steal it (torrent), so to me, 30 bucks is a lot for this type of release. To each his own, but to me, this is just not that interesting of a lineup. I just can’t get very excited about another live version of “The Torture Never Stops”. I know…it’s Zappa, so I’m sure there is some good stuff in there. Many people here have mentioned far more interesting potential releases. To me, the increasingly popular phrase; ‘the vault is a myth” means that there are almost limitless live versions of “Torture” that could be released, but most of the really unique things have some combination of legal, technical or emotional issues blocking them, so that they will never see the light of day. This release would make a great 10 or 12 dollar download, and it seems there was a tiny bit of movement by ZFT in that direction, but things seem to have stalled. Most younger music fans think that even iTunes releases are overpriced. I am in my mid-50’s, but I talk to a lot of college-age music fans. Most of them (wrongly) think music and software should be free (free-without advertising). So I just don’t see how the Zappa consumer fan base can grow or even survive at $30 a release. (BTW, I just paid $7.99 + free shipping on Amazon.com for the new live Tom Waits double-CD “Glitter and Doom” tour, packaged very nicely. Beat that, ZFT!) My main point is that it will be more difficult than Chinese algebra to build a new Zappa fan base at $30 a release. That’s just the reality of the current economy and “the mind of the foolish young consumer”.

  19. Chris says:

    I definitely don’t need to hear another version of HDYWAMLM or “The Poodle Lecture,” but otherwise, this definitely looks worthwhile (despite the steep price). I’m looking forward to hearing an official version of “Stranded in the Jungle” – I’ve heard an FZ version in the past, but I don’t think it was this band…I seem to remember Ike being on it. I think it’s circa 1978…

    I agree that this is another underrepresented lineup that’s finally getting its due. These bands should’ve been on YCDTOSA instead of the enormous amounts of 1984 band material. But I suppose I’m preaching to the choir here.

  20. Paul Sempschi says:

    A quote from Chris:

    I agree that this is another underrepresented lineup that’s finally getting its due. These bands should’ve been on YCDTOSA instead of the enormous amounts of 1984 band material. But I suppose I’m preaching to the choir here.

    I actually like the 84 line up (mostly for their heavenly vocals), and thought that they really brightened up the 3rd and 4th volumes quite nicely. But yeah, I agree that this line up, along with the Oz and Petit Wazoo are criminally under-represented.

    Though I’d prefer that Frank released a 7th guitar jam-heavy volume, sort of in the vein of the second disc on the 6th, which could have dealt with the output on these stripped down line ups. Bianca’s YDT2CM (with the rebuttle) would have made a great opening!

  21. cregg says:

    A quote from Paul Sempschi:

    Though I’d prefer that Frank released a 7th guitar jam-heavy volume, sort of in the vein of the second disc on the 6th, which could have dealt with the output on these stripped down line ups. Bianca’s YDT2CM (with the rebuttle) would have made a great opening!

    WHO WOODNT???

  22. urbangraffito says:

    While I agree with P-Rip, 30 dollars is quite expensive, even for a Zappa release – and with Chris, “I definitely don’t need to hear another version of HDYWAMLM or ‘The Poodle Lecture’,” – this line-up has always been one of my personal favorites (probably due to it’s brief life as an actual performing ensemble, I might add), and the chance to hear a high quality audio (at the time, given the recording technology FZ employed) of one of these shows is indeed a treat.

    That said, for the most part, the ZFT knows they have a large fanbase willing to pay almost (and I am extremely tentative with the use of that particular word) anything. Still, even as a completist, I am not prepared to leap and immediately purchase whatever the ZFT release when they release it.

    Releases of questionable or limited value such as the over-priced Joe’s Corsage series, Halloween (the Big One which wasn’t so big after all), The MOFO Project/Object (fazedooh), The Dub Room Special! CD (anyone who bought the DVD could easily have ripped a disc of mp3s for their personal listening), the One Shot Deal compilation, or the 2006 AAAFNRAA and 2008 AAAFNRAAA FZ Birthday Bundles.

    These releases have certainly strained my wallet. I can imagine non-completists and younger fans overlooking them altogether.

    If the ZFT wishes to insure a steady income, in my opinion, they might think well to stick to these full length concert releases, instead of attempting to sell Zappa’s music piecemeal.

    That said, I both agree with the ZFT position re iTunes and digital compression regarding FZ’s music. However, there must be some sort of middle ground where both fans of FZ’s music and the ZFT can find common cause so that no sooner does the ZFT release something than a torrent pops up somewhere offering it for free. Though it’s not really free, if you think about it. Every official Vaulternative CD somebody downloads, we all wind up paying for, don’t we, in the 30 dollar price tag for Philly ’76?

  23. La Croucharacha says:

    Well, I for one am glad that the ZFT is releasing SOMETHING!

    It’s been too long since the release of ‘Joe’s Menage’, and as a Londoner, it’s hard to get hold of the inbetweeny stuff like ‘The Torture Never Stops’ DVD. – For a couple of months I’ve been thinking that the ZFT might just have stopped producing product!

    Just be happy that we’re gonna get to hear some more of FZ’s unreleased work! – Stop complaining! This is great news!

    If you can’t afford to pay for this no-doubt fantastic CD, then just steal the money from someone weaker than you!

  24. Paul Sempschi says:

    A quote from urbangraffito:

    That said, I both agree with the ZFT position re iTunes and digital compression regarding FZ’s music. However, there must be some sort of middle ground where both fans of FZ’s music and the ZFT can find common cause so that no sooner does the ZFT release something than a torrent pops up somewhere offering it for free. Though it’s not really free, if you think about it. Every official Vaulternative CD somebody downloads, we all wind up paying for, don’t we, in the 30 dollar price tag for Philly ’76?

    I see your point, though for me it’s not about the money. If I supported the ZFT and their legal suits and bully tactics, it wouldnt matter to me how much this release costs. In better days, I’ve paid $40 to import Imaginary Diseases.

    But as it stands, I cant, I wont, I wouldnt give them one red cent for any of it (maybe the Roxy, but I’m not made of stone!). Though if they do compensate and jack up the rates for their releases, me and a bunch of freaks are planning to switch tactics and chip in on the releases so that we can post the torrents up ourselves.

    So cross your fingers for the $90 single disc!

  25. Chris says:

    I agree that the ’84 band had incredible vocal harmonies (and in some ways, they’re a sentimental favorite – the only time I saw Frank was on that tour), but the cold, dated electronic sounds and the grating fake reggae make it difficult to ingest in heavy doses. My gripe with the ’84 band’s presence in the YCDTOSA series isn’t so much their presence, it’s their oversaturation. There is WAY too much of that band in the series.

  26. vince says:

    A quote from P-Rip:

    This release would make a great 10 or 12 dollar download, and it seems there was a tiny bit of movement by ZFT in that direction, but things seem to have stalled. .

    Geez, That “Mothermania” down-load only thing would’ve made a great 10 or 12 dollar download!

  27. urbangraffito says:

    A quote from Paul Sempschi:

    A quote from urbangraffito:

    That said, I both agree with the ZFT position re iTunes and digital compression regarding FZ’s music. However, there must be some sort of middle ground where both fans of FZ’s music and the ZFT can find common cause so that no sooner does the ZFT release something than a torrent pops up somewhere offering it for free. Though it’s not really free, if you think about it. Every official Vaulternative CD somebody downloads, we all wind up paying for, don’t we, in the 30 dollar price tag for Philly ’76?

    I see your point, though for me it’s not about the money. If I supported the ZFT and their legal suits and bully tactics, it wouldnt matter to me how much this release costs. In better days, I’ve paid $40 to import Imaginary Diseases.

    But as it stands, I cant, I wont, I wouldnt give them one red cent for any of it (maybe the Roxy, but I’m not made of stone!). Though if they do compensate and jack up the rates for their releases, me and a bunch of freaks are planning to switch tactics and chip in on the releases so that we can post the torrents up ourselves.

    So cross your fingers for the $90 single disc!

    I hear you, Paul. None of us FZ fans have a bottomless wallet. Though it does seem to me that the mail-order business paradigm that the ZFT has stuck to since before FZ’s passing has really left them in the past, technologically speaking. I mean, how many music fans actually buy hard copies of CDs anymore? The majority of my music purchases are direct downloads now (which contain all the artwork necessary for producing a CDR hardcopy) in FLAC format (from which I create a mp3 version for personal listening and use the flac for storage and backup). I don’t see musicians such as Mike Keneally having any problem offering their music as direct downloads at affordable prices (and his music doesn’t suddenly pop as torrents just after release, either). Or does this have more to do with personal animus between the ZFT and the fans of Zappa’s music?

  28. urbangraffito says:

    A quote from La Croucharacha:

    Well, I for one am glad that the ZFT is releasing SOMETHING!

    It’s been too long since the release of ‘Joe’s Menage’, and as a Londoner, it’s hard to get hold of the inbetweeny stuff like ‘The Torture Never Stops’ DVD. – For a couple of months I’ve been thinking that the ZFT might just have stopped producing product!

    Just be happy that we’re gonna get to hear some more of FZ’s unreleased work! – Stop complaining! This is great news!

    If you can’t afford to pay for this no-doubt fantastic CD, then just steal the money from someone weaker than you!

    If you really think out, we Zappa fans are like the red-headed stepchild of the Zappa family.

  29. Neal says:

    Wah wah wah.

    Quit yer bellyaching about every bleeding new release. If they limited these releases to 1000 copies and charged you $40, they would be gone in a heartbeat and you would end up paying $80-100 on ebay to the scalpers. If they had put out a single disc for $18 and left of Torture, Poodle, Romance, Honey, Dinah . . . you would complain even more.

    There is no way for the ZFT to please every fickle pickle out there, so just suck it up and spend your money wisely. If you’re only a casual fan, there is no reason to buy this one. If you are a new fan, there is no reason to buy this. If you a a life long dedicated completist, isn’t it better to give your money to the ZFT then to buy a promo Austrailian LP pressing of Hot Rats on ebay.

    Most hardcore fans will buy this, and would rather have a physical cd copy over a download any day of the week. Who the hell collects mp3s anyway? Most fans want a Vaulternative release from every single tour (ie: the best sounding, most complete, and best performed from every line-up Frank put together). Everyone else can go buy Apostrophe and Hot Rats and get on with your life.

  30. Chuck says:

    What does annoy me with these releases is that Barfko pricing is very high, but ok I can deal with that, but once shipping is included it makes buying it internationally with a weaker currency excessively expensive.

    If they could get their distribution together and have it so I could walk down to the local record store and just buy a copy I would be buying it straight away.

    At least the last few releases I could get when ZPZ toured at a nice normal, sane price.

  31. Neal says:

    A quote from Chuck:

    What does annoy me with these releases is that Barfko pricing is very high, but ok I can deal with that, but once shipping is included it makes buying it internationally with a weaker currency excessively expensive.

    If they could get their distribution together and have it so I could walk down to the local record store and just buy a copy I would be buying it straight away.

    At least the last few releases I could get when ZPZ toured at a nice normal, sane price.

    That’s what I did. I waited until MOFO came out to get all of the releases after CPIII because the shipping was ridiculous outside of the US (I’m in Canada). Then I bought the rest at the last tour. That is the one nice thing about all of the posthumous releases being still in print and available, there is none of the chaotic frenzy associated with those limited edition, tour-only, get it before it costs you an arm and a leg, cds of late (any Sunn 0))) fans out there?).

  32. Thinman says:

    I wait a little time and always buy at http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/home/search/-/lang/en/currency/EUR/fastsearch/Zappa/pd_orderby/score

    Th.

  33. John Carter of Mars says:

    Buy it used in a few months. Always the cheaper option, and the money doesn’t go to the family. It’s a win win for us fans and an F.U. to the idiotic ZFT.

    Yea!!

    🙂

  34. Harry Barris says:

    Well, I’m not going to buy it (something about a personally enforced boycott until the Roxy dvd is released) but it should have good sound quality because it comes from a ‘big bucks’ pro mobile truck 16-track multitrack recording–so it probably deserves a cd release as opposed to the more typical ‘rougher’ (mostly 4-track tape in the 70s) recorded through the board shows which could make ideal downloads, imo. Also, according to the link “Thinman” provided:

    The infos on

    http://www.globalia.net/donlope/fz/chronology/1976-1980.html

    the version of Wind Up Workin’ At A Gas Station on YCDTOSA Vol. 6 comes from this same 1976 Philly Spectrum show. So those that have this last volume can compare FZ’s stereo mix of this song to Fillipetti’s!

    Strange that since FZ had this entire concert in 16-track form (state-of-the-art remote recording in ’76) that he only decided to release just this one song from it?

  35. Theydon Bois says: