Conceptional Continuity

[R.Q. DeNameland]

NEW GUIDES TO SUCCESSFUL LIVING BY R.Q. DENAMELAND
 
People!  I am so glad I have found this list!  I just want to share with you my thesis on successful living.

For only 5.95 you can obtain my GUIDE TO SUCCESFUL LIVING THROUGH CONCEPTUAL CONTINUITY

Also available for a limited time only:
YOUR PLACE AND FUNCTION WITHIN THE CONCEPTUAL CONTINUTY UNIVERSE

and the ever popular:
POODLES THROUGH THE AGES

For pricelist and shipping information please email me at robertq@yahoo.com

Sponsored by the CCC of US, Inc.

[Debrakadabra]

You know guy, I think I  can figure out my place in the CC universe, thank you very much!  I don't need some guide to tell me how!  I bet it's all a plot to convert people!

DebK

[R.Q. DeNameland]

I am truly sorry that you do not trust me.  I am only here to help others on their way through this vast and confusing landscape known as CC or Conceptional Continuity.  Ask me a question about my system, I will be happy to answer.

Robert Q.

[Debrakadabra]

You know, I think you are one of those crazy phoney people that post here and I will say one thing to you, bite me, I'm not falling for it!

DebK

[sharleena]

NEW GUIDES TO SUCCESSFUL LIVING BY R.Q. DENAMELAND
 
People!  I am so glad I have found this list!  I just want to share with you my thesis on successful living.

For only 5.95 you can obtain my GUIDE TO SUCCESFUL LIVING THROUGH CONCEPTUAL CONTINUITY

Also available for a limited time only:
YOUR PLACE AND FUNCTION WITHIN THE CONCEPTUAL CONTINUTY UNIVERSE

Me, i'm very interested!
So, you wrote the book?
Is there just ONE Conceptual Continuity?
How do you know beforehand that i have a place and function in the CC? Shall i ever be tall, for example? Jesus was here once, did he tell you?
What about the others?
Is DebKa spell in your book? And NoPlasticRobots's polls? Was it written that Phat Elvis, Zappa6995, Frenchmen, Sofa, Loukeb, DaZombyWoof, TopCat and all people here were going to meet sometime in this forum? How did you know?
Is it written in your book that i'm listening to The Revised Music for Guitar & Low Budget Orchestra right now? Is it?
Do you throw a mean tarot?
And, how did you make those cool letters moving from right to left saying NEW GUIDES TO SUCCESSFUL...etc..?

I'm impressed, i'll e-mail you personnally soon!

[zappa6995]

Wowie Zowie!  I just love this marquee thingy!  It's a lot of fun!  

Hmm...I wonder what that R.Q. stands for....

[NoPlasticRobots]

I think the R.Q stands for Really Quiet, which would be in regards to his not answering Sharleena's questions, and his not having a membership to the forum. Speak Up R.Q!

[sharleena]

I think the R.Q stands for Really Quiet, which would be in regards to his not answering Sharleena's questions, and his not having a membership to the forum. Speak Up R.Q!

Yeah, speak up, RQ! I think the RQ may stand for Robert Quentin, as in
'QUENTIN ROBERT DeNAMELAND, Greatest Living Philostopher Known to Mankind'
but i may be wrong...Here is an interesting dialogue between Frank and Matt Groening about time and ways for CC to be perceived (picked up from the ARF notes:http://www.arf.ru/Notes/Stan/gregg.html)

"Frank Zappa. The Mother Of All Interviews,
by Donn Menn (DM) and Matt Groening (MG)

Zappa! From The Publishers Of Keyboard And Guitar Player p.64
 
  MG: Let's talk about your ideas of time.  
  FZ: Well, I think that everything is happening all the time, and the only reason why we think of time lineary is because we are conditioned to do it. That's because the human idea of stuff is: it has a beggining and it has an end. I don't think that's necessarily true. You think of time as a constant, a spherical constant --  
  MG: -- in which --  
  FZ: -- Everything's happening all the time, always did. always will...  
  MG: So this coffee cup --  
  FZ: -- Was always full, and always empty --  
  MG: -- and it's always being drunk, and it's always being heated --  
  FZ: -- And it's alawys being thrown, and the guy was always painting it, and so on and so forth. Everything is always.  
  MG: Why does this empty cup make sense to me?  
  MG: You know what I mean, though?  
  FZ: Is that a Zen question?  
  MG: No, why do I go, "Oh, I have already - the cup that I drank no longer appears to be full."  
  FZ: Well, because it is not full at this particular version of --  
  FZ: We're dealing with time in a quasi-practical manner. We have devised our own personal universe and lifestyle that is ruled by time sliced this way, and we progress from notch to notch, day by day, and you just learn to meet your deadlines that way. That's only for human covenience. That, to me, is not a good explanation of how thing really work. I seems just as feasible to me that everything is happening all the time. And whether you believe you coffe cup is full or not is irrelevant. It's like -- here's another way to explain it. What something is depends more on when it is than anything else. You can't define something accurately until you understand where it is.  
  MG: When in time.  
  FZ: Yeah, when is what. Without the perfect understanding of when, you've got nothing to deal with, see? 'Cause you analyze that cup of cofee a little bit earlier, and it's full. In a few minutes, you'll kick it over, and it won't even exist anymore. The state of the cup is determined by when you're perceiving it.  
  DM: Which means that the future has already happened.  
  FZ: Yeah. And the reason why I feel so strongly about this is, you know, this is one of the better explanation for why people can have premonitions, because instead of looking ahead, they're just looking around. You don't have to look ahead to see the future. You can look over there. "

Anyways, RQ has it ALL written in his book!!! and he offers it for a more than reasonable price!!!

Speak up, RQ!!

wow, i can do it too  

[SOFA]

Fuck you if you don't like my hat!

[shadow=red,left,300]The Negative Dialectics of Button Play[/shadow]
by

Osama Ben Watson

 is available from the RipOff Press for only 3.95...
His chapter on BELLIES is a must read!
SOFA

It changed my life!

- Red Buttons

[R.Q. DeNameland]

ROBERT QUENTIN DENAMELAND, WORLDS GREATEST LIVING PHILOSTOPHER

Yes, my children, my name is Robert Quentin DeNameland, the World's Greatest Living Philostopher!  You may scoff and guffaw, but it means naught!

The most important thing in life is to get right with Frank!  Open yourself to his influence.  Let him fill you with his presence!  Yes!  Can I hear an  awreety awrighty!

Let us look at his name.  First name - FRANK - This means truth or honesty.  It also means a hot dog or weanie.

Last name - ZAPPA - this is obvious in meaning.

You put them together and you are ZAPPED WITH TRUTH AND FRANKNESS or you are ZAPPED WITH A WEANIE.  And considering the importance of BURNT WEANIE SANDWICHES and weanies of all kinds in the mythology either meaning can be used!

This is not mere fortune telling.  Ultimately it is unimportant whether we can fortell the future or use telepathy.  If we are relaxed into the Conceptual Continuity that FZ created, the Cosmic Debris of life will float past us and we will go through life effortlessly and happily.

We are contributors to CC, we inhabit the CC universe, we swim through it like happy little thing-fishes.  This is our ultimate purpose and duty in life!  Give me a WOWIE ZOWIE!

So look around you, see all the clues that surround you in your everyday life, do the routines, say the lines, even play the music and you will be doing Frank's work!!!!  Either that or sit in your basement for days at a time and splice together little bits of film and audio tape and see what you get.

Sharleena, my dear, I think your ready for the seminar.  Come, empty your pockets and we'll go over to that dark quiet corner and talk.  Oh, mama!

I have many duties which I need to attend to, my children, so I will leave you now   Read my books!  Think deeply on what I have told you.  It will CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!!!

In total and complete Motherly Love,
Robert Quentin DeNameland

[sharleena]

Fuck you if you don't like my hat!

[shadow=red,left,300]The Negative Dialectics of Button Play[/shadow]
by

Osama Ben Watson

 is available from the RipOff Press for only 3.95...
His chapter on BELLIES is a must read!
SOFA

It changed my life!

- Red Buttons

Sofa!! You have The Negative Dialectics of Button Play?! Is it the version written in stones, or the stenographed one? The one with the filthy illustrations made by the Pope?? How come you never told before? Does it explain why my belly makes noises when i'm about to fall asleep?
I think i'll have pretty interesting material to read from RQ de Nameland and Osama Ben Watson, the greatest philostophers from the third milennium...
Anyway, shouldn't we be in the No Commercial Potential section?
I noticed the Administrator is looking at us with that skewed glance...Besides, this thread is making my neck hurt, with all those texts moving...I offer $3.97 for The Negative..., lemme know when the bid expires!

[R.Q. DeNameland]

I, for one, have no interest in making a profit from my ventures.  It is merely a way to help and benefit mankind (and womankind).  I have no ulterior motives!  And did anybody notice that I spelled conceptual continuity wrong in the topic heading?

R.Q. DeNameland

 [shadow=red,left,300]HELP ME, HELP ME, I CAN'T SPELL!!!!!!!![/shadow]

[bertanya]

Here is an interesting dialogue between Frank and Matt Groening about time and ways for CC to be perceived (picked up from the ARF notes:http://www.arf.ru/Notes/Stan/gregg.html)

Do you think you go along with the dialogue sharleena, i think it contains concepts, which i find i cannot accede to contain continuity, (or accede to continuity if you prefer).  

[sharleena]

Do you think you go along with the dialogue sharleena, i think it contains concepts, which i find i cannot accede to contain continuity, (or accede to continuity if you prefer).  

Well, not sure about your point, but, to me, time is an important part of Conceptual Continuity; if you are asking if i "agree" with Frank's vision about time, well i can't do that. I don't have an alternate vision of it, I'm not an intellectual, i'm one of those bored persons that rules it life according to linear time. Time is a social convention, just a way to get things with a minimum order. Yet i believe things tends to function the way Frank describes it (look at this thread, first it never existed, then started, then stopped then started again; it will be that way then someday, in a million years it'll dissappear forever and it'll appear again, yes, maybe! :-)
That's why I feel so attracted to Zappa's views, because they widens your point of view...
S

[bertanya]

Ok, I'll try a few details...

I feel disquiet accepting that the future has always already happened.  

So how might a different explanation for premonitions work ?

A macro event which will happen in the future creates echoes in the past (see reference below).  These echoes if sensed might effect a premonition, which the premonitioner could react to.  

For example, the coffee cup is on the amp, a disquiet is felt w.r.t this arrangement. The coffee cup is moved, then when it's knocked over, it's the floor that's bedecked with coffee.

As to whether you could just drink the coffee so it doesn't get spilled/spilt, that's another question.

Is this different to what frank was saying ? I think not much, but a bit.

Is it more accurate ? Who knows, it's easier for me though.

Is there a point ? Well, maybe frank would still want to help me out, so i'll try a quote...

from WHAT'S THE UGLIEST PART OF YOUR BODY

All your children are poor unfortunate victims of systems beyond their control. A plague upon your ignorance that keeps the young from the truth they deserve...

I still feel ignorant on these matters, and so question them.  

bertanya

That's why I feel so attracted to Zappa's views, because they widens your point of view...

well that's for sure...    



Reference from http://www.dhushara.com/book/quantcos/quant1/quant.htm

The emitter transmits an offer wave both forwards and backwards in time declaring its capacity to emit a photon. All the potential absorbers of this photon transmit a corresponding confirmation wave. The confirmation waves travelling backwards in time send a hand-shaking signal back to the emitter. A non-linearity now reduces the set of possibilities to one offer and confirmation wave which superimpose constructively to form a real photon only on the space-time path connecting the emitter to the absorber. This always connects an emitter at an earlier time to an absorber at later time because a real positive energy photon is a retarded particle which travels in the usual direction in time.