Good point Barry

to me marks like this <<< make me think like I'm bouncing it further with my chest with arms slightly spread apart which causes along sounds like yhhg yghhg

Is this the way you really feel like over at the other forum/group, Bart ??

<<< seems to work quite allright there, no? Some of us should be enough familiar with it too, yourself included ...

I for one kinda got used to both >>> and <<< now, no difference to me ...

(even if initially I had the same concerns as Barry and Bart are now expressing)
No, seriously, guys, with this piece of exotic looking semantics (
temporarily borrowed from our friend SOFA, hope you don't mind, sir ...

) I was merely trying to illustrate that right now we are dealing with two copies serving one and the same vine, one from each end. Not just one copy meant to replace another one, that in my view hasn't been declared lost yet ... or has it ??
An experimental way of trying to persuade Pachuco or those next to get it moving "forward" (along the "Barry" arrows >>>) and/or
let the forum know about that copy while the other one, sent from me to Kookie, would travel along that same vine in "reverse" order (thus the "SOFA" arrowing <<<) from the opposite end.
Therefore it might be helpful for everyone who sees his name in both vines, if from now on they would copy and paste both vine chains into their reply post, once they receive their copy and pass it on.
Kookie, who is the first one to receive the <<< copy, would then delete his name from the >>> vine too and Mogul, if and when he gets Pachuco's copy, would then delete his name from the end of the new <<< vine, and so on ... till both copies get to meet somewhere in the middle, and from there on they could travel separate ways to new forumers signing up.
We could then revert to our classic >>> arrowing system for both separate vines, no problem.
But, hey, if you prefer, Bart, Barry, others forumers, no objection on my part, we can also stick right away to the >>> arrowing for both subvines, "forward" and "reverse".
My principal concern is for the "forward" part of the vine to get moving too. I didn't mean to just re-inject to this vine and thus encourage somebody else to remain sitting even more comfortably on his copy instead of complying with the basic rules I assume we all have agreed on collectively, meaning: showing a minimum of courtesy to the forum by sending the copy you receive onwards to next in vine within a reasonable time range, or at least give some notice that you didn't receive or why you couldn't pass on ... And really, folks in the waiting line, it always helps to get in touch by PM with the person you think you could rightfully expect explanations from, even if it takes repeated attempts. And then this forum is the right place imho to tell about it...
Anyway, just my two (euro)cents ...

Any more opinions ?? Thanks.

-- vrnzr
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Meanwhile, back to the vines:
orig."forward" (>>>)vine:
SinisterMidget(UK)>>>Pachuco(CAN) >>>mogul-man(USA) >>wazoologist(aus)>>Smooghead(UK) >>>tmhblaze1(usa) >>> cekman (USA) >>> rfrong (USA) >>> Kookie (UAE) >>> ...
new "reverse"(<<<)vine:
vrnzr<<< Kookie(UAE) <<< rfrong(USA) <<< cekman(USA) <<< tmhblaze1(usa) <<< Smooghead(UK) <<< wazoologist(aus) <<< mogul-man(USA) <<< sqwire(UK)
Barry, Bart, please read:
vrnzr>>> Kookie(UAE) >>> rfrong(USA) >>> cekman(USA) >>> tmhblaze1(usa) >>>Smooghead(UK) >>> wazoologist(aus) >>> mogul-man(USA) >>> sqwire(UK) 