Zappathon 2004 at WUSB

[Studio Tan]

Looks like interesting stuff.
I'm in too.

sharleena-be >> vrnzr-be >> bobo-be  >> balint-hu >> ive-be>> Studio Tan-se

[SOFA]

I was in the process of "narrowing down" this tasty sucker when I discovered that my disk #2 was blank (#1 has been completed). I can only assume that the rest of you have had no problem with disk 2?
SOFA

[Barry]

Part two is going your way since last monday morning, Sofa!
Sorry about the delay (i guess it's because of good news: finnally i've got a job! thus my lack of time lately).
Unfortunately i can't reply to any of vrnzr queries, maybe you can, later, when you receive it?
It's an excellent show, i'm glad you guys are enjoying.
Sharl

[sharleena]

Yeah ok, that last post was made by me after Barry was evicted (also by me, and he was still logged in) from his own -comfy- machine. I do that on occassion!  
Sharl

[SOFA]

Hey Sharl!
I wasn't like trying to air out my laundary with that post; I was actually curious if anyone experienced what I experienced... I look forward to getting back to work on the project.
Congratulations on the job! I am SO happy for you!
But then, I knew that someone with your talents was not going to be unemployed for too long...
The best to you and Barry!
SOFA

[Muffin]

I'd love to hear this - thanks.


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[Bálint]

sharleena-be >> vrnzr-be >> bobo-be  >> balint-hu >> ive-be>> Studio Tan-se>>  Muffin-UK

hurrray!--- finally I managed to copy these CD's, and just about to send it to Ive!

Sorry again for being late so much but I hada a few (technical & other) problems. So here it goes!

B

[Bálint]

Last week I had some time to listen to the Zappathon program - at least the first part of it. Here's the tracklist - continuing what vrnzr started a few weeks ago.

For me it was a surprise that there is plenty of music and (relatively) few talks.
So here's my list - there might be some mistakes here and there, but I think most of it is corect.


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00:00:00   Something Bob Dylan
00:01:47   Peaches (Partial)
00:02:36   The Central Strutinizer

00:06:10   "Who Was Frank Zappa?"

00:17:43   "The Way I See It Barry…" - You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here
00:21:24   Aerobics In Bondage
00:24:24   Stick It Out
00:26:09   Let's Make The Water Turn Black '88
00:29:08   Oh No '88
00:30:22   Tell Me You Love Me (Tinseltown)
00:32:31   Dirty Love (YCDTOSA. Vol 6.)
00:35:12   Magic Fingers (YCDTOSA. Vol 6.)
00:37:30   Debra Kadabra
00:41:24   "I Can't Stand It" '71
00:42:05   The Young Sophisticate (Tinseltown)
00:44:42   Jones Crushier (Baby Snakes)
00:47:40   Teenage Prostitute
00:49:57   Cheepnis
00:54:18   What Ever Happened To All The Fun In The World?
00:54:51   Tink Walks Amok

00:58:32   (Approximate) - Talk

01:03:00   St Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast
01:07:37   FZ-Interview
01:08:10   Can't Afford No Shoes

01:10:42   Talk - "Ralph Stuffs His Shoes"-Story; About Junior Mintz Boogie

01:30:16   Junior Mintz Boogie
01:33:10   Bognor Regis?…
01:37:50   What Will This Evening Bring Me This Morning?

01:41:04   Talk

01:45:11   Tears Begin To Fall (Junior Mintz B-Side)
01:47:57   Jelly-Roll Gum Drop
01:50:21   Anyway The Wind Blows
01:53:10   You Didn't Try To Call Me
01:57:10   Dog Breath Variations (Uncle Meat - Vinyl Version?)

01:59:53   Talk

02:12:28   Cruising For Burgers ('76, In New York)
02:22:53   FZ Interview
02:23:29   Cruising For Burgers ('71)
02:26:20   Cruising For Burgers (Uncle Meat)

02:28:40   Talk (end of first part)
   
   

[sharleena]

Heee-eey Balint!

Thank you SO much for this much needed and very well done list.

SOFA, since the last Part 2 i've sent to you didn't work, may i suggest you to subscribe to the vine now? I believe the vined version is now sliced...

Sharl

[Barry]

May I echo Sharl's comment Balint: impressive track-slicing info!
Does this mean the Zappathon 2004 vine is now being spread in this sliced format?

[Bálint]

working on the 2nd part...

:-)

[vrnzr]

erh... if I may add these few remarks (&questions) to Bálint's tracklist part 1:

00:41:24   "I Can't Stand It" '71
yeah, right, it sounds more like some Flo&Eddie rather than from the "Baby Snakes" era.
Would anybody know where from? Perhaps a snippet from Playground Psychotics ?? Not sure...

01:57:10   Dog Breath Variations (Uncle Meat - Vinyl Version?)
The (instrumental) version heard here is said to be the B-side to the 7"single "My Guitar wants to kill Your Mama" (played later in Zappathon Part 2)

01:59:53   Talk
The music that can be heard behind this Talk portion is from the (Swedish) Omnibus Wind Ensemble - Music By Frank Zappa album, beautifully arranged Zappa pieces for large wind ensemble & percussion. The tracks played are Dog Breath Variations - Uncle Meat, Sinister Footwear, 2nd Movement and Brown Shoes Don't Make It. I doubt if this album is still available.

02:23:29   Cruising For Burgers ('71)
from the Montreux show ('SwissCheese' & 'Fire')

anyway, if anybody knows a few answers to my questions asked a month earlier... thank you thank you thank you kindly in advance...  

[Bálint]

Hi vrnzr - hi everyone,
unfortunately I could listen do this while working, so I couldnt go into details... So it also menas that I (still?....) cannot answer your question - I still do not see, whether I will be able to slice those files up - I just had time for listenning them once, and was writing heavily - while working... :-)

So it can be a first step, an "under progress" variation.

[Bálint]

Huh, this will be ugly, but... So I could make it only this way. Tons of time signatures missing.

Part 2

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00:00:00   Talk - how to give money to the radiostation

   Willie The Pimp
   Lumpy Gravy Theme - cover: The Persuasions
   Lumpy Gravy Theme - Original
   "The Smug-Mates" … - "Special Treatment From California" (Orange Claw Hammer?)
   I Was A Teenage Maltshop
   The Origin Of Captain Beefheart
   Status Back Baby (?… A cover)
   Unknown Old Song (Demos From "I Was A Teenage Maltshop"?
   Advance Romance

   talk: "we had a phonecall from Kill Ugly Radio, which is a great site, from Barry and Sharleena…"Guests: Nigey Lennon, + unknown guy who was there at Armadilllo, Texas, 1975, when the Bongo Fury recording was made. Some stories: Beeafheart sat on a chair all the time, etc…

   Beefheart interview
00:49:00   Sam With The Showing Scalp Flat Top
   Poofter's Froth Wyoming Plans Ahead
   Lonesome Cowboy Burt
   FZ About Beefheart
   (The Torture Never Stops - Original Version)

   talk: about beefheart, Bongo Fury
   
   FZ interview: on Zoot allures.He's mad about being censored: once he was invited to a radiostation but was not allowed to play 2 songs: Torture and Black Napkins. An instrumental song! Why? (FZ is mad). Why is an instrumental song censored?"I get really mad, because I worked a lot on that and I really like the music I made and I think that it is good and I get mad when someone censores it!" (not word-by-word)
01:19:15   Black Napkins
   The Torture Never Stops (Zoot Allures Version)
   talk: about radios. Buy records! Got mail from the guys from The Big Note! (Sofa and the others)
   Mr. Green Genes (Bootleg, '72, Grand Wazoo tour)
   Blues in "A" (DFZ plays the music of FZ) - if I'm right
   Joe's Garage (for SOFA I think)
   Pick Me I'm Clean
   Duke of Orchestral Prunes
   
02:04:10   talk
   
   Kaiser Rolls (OZ, live)
   Moggio (Ensemble Modern)
   My Guitar
   San Berdino (bootleg, '75)
   
02:26:30   talk
   
   Flambay (original version with Chester Thomson)
   Society Pages
   Beautiful Guy
   Beauty Knows No Pain
   Charlie's Enormous Mouth
   Any Downers?
   Conehead (all of these are the Crush All Boxes versions)
   
03:02:00   talk: about Crush All BoxesQuestion to Nigey Lennon: Did FZ like animals (question of Sharleena?)Answer: yes, he did.Das Jesus Roach calling: he was listening to Burnt Weeny Sandwich
   
03:10:55   Little House I Used To Live In (bootleg, around '69, quoting Dog Breath) Heavy drum playing here! Fine.
   
03:22:40   talk: a question on Läther: "please show and discuss it on air". Here you are:
   
03:26:20   Regyptian Strut
   
   talk - "Läther was a 4 record set""Joe's Garage is Frank's outer self - Läther is his inner world" - says Nigey Lennon (not word-by-word).
   
03:39:32   A Little Green Rosetta (Läther version) goes into
   Ship Ahoy (hm, really short…)
   Duck Duck Goose
   audio-disaster from Läther :-) (Sorry I've never heard that album…)
03:45:37   Filthy Habits
   Lemme Take You To The Beach

03:54:30   talk - a guest talking - for example about Ensemble Modern
   
04:04:50   Montana ('74) bootleg - great and long solo! When could it be?
   "I'm riding a small tiny horsehis name is Ronald Reagan,he's a good horse!"
   
   talk - general stuff…
   
04:22:30   King Kong - Ed Palermo, in Germany, 2002 Zappanale #13; (Really good! Lively cover! Heavy brass!)

04:29:20   Talk - Ed Palermo on the phoneAbout his own music… About Zappa (He prefers the early period), But playing it live: it doesn't matter"The more you learn, the more you realize, how much possibilities you have."FZ's music is so complicated, he always has to simplify that.

04:46:53   Toads Of The Short Forest - Ed Palermo Big Band (CD)
   
   talk - Ed Palermo again
   
   Lucy's Seduction of a Bored Violinist and Postlude
   Sinister Footwear pt. II.  '81, bootleg (just a few seconds)
   
   Talk - general stuff
   
   back to Sinister Footwear - guitar solo
   Marqueson's Chicken (bootleg also - from '81! not played too often!)
   Alien Orifice (Meets The M of P))
   Time Is Money (Original version, insrtumental)
   
   Talk - David Walley on the phone, author of "No Commercial Potential"he sees a big difference: seen FZ in the sixties till '71, and everibdody was listenning carefully. And seen him in '77, and everybody in the audience just went crazy.Finally: he is greeting Sharleena!!!!!!  :-)
   
05:45:10   Nasal Retentive Caliope Music
   Lets Make The Water Turn Black
   The Idiot Bastard Son - sung by Sting, around '88 (or 2002?…)
   Bow Tie Daddy
   What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body?
   
   Talk - general stuff
   
06:02:30   Dental Hygiene Dilemma - Ensemble Modern, 2000, live
   What Will Rumi Do? - Ensemble Modern
   Night School - Ensemble Modern
   
   

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I Have no more tiiiime!!!!!!!

Bye

B
   
   

[Bobo]

Hi there Guys (and Galls),

Holidays are over, back to work: How to cut Zappathon 2004 - part 1:

Copy and paste the text at the end of this posting into a text file and save it as "Zappathon 2004 part 1.cue" (exactly the letters between brackets).

Go on the internet and find a MP3 cutter, I personally use a program called Musicutter 0.7.1. You can find it at http://musicutter.szm.sk/. The download contains the program and a good help file. It does not add the MP3 tags.

The basics are:
- in the software, select the Zappathon 2004 (pt.1).mp3 file (or whatever you renamed it to)
- select a destination
- use the import from file button to import the cue file saved previously
- press the 'cut now!' button and after a couple of minutes you have a nice selction of split files.

A huge bravo for Balint on his effort disecting the first part, without this info, I wouldn't have been able to create this cue sheet (thanks Balint  ).

Just one remark: This a quick and dirty first effort. I quickly checked the result, the cut is not perfect,  for some 'songs' the cut is halve a second too early. The only way this can be solved is by finetuning the Balint list with tenths of seconds.

Give it a go and please post you comments, questions, suggestions or corrections.



---- Copy after this ----
TITLE "Zappathon 2004 part 1"
PERFORMER "Frank Zappa"
REM ** Generated by Bobo**
REM Time  :
REM Length:
REM DiscID:
FILE "Frank Zappa - Zappathon 2004 part 1.mp3" MP3
 TRACK 01 AUDIO
   TITLE "Something Bob Dylan"
   INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
   TITLE "The Central Strutinizer"
   INDEX 01 02:36:00  
TRACK 03 AUDIO
   TITLE "Who Was Frank Zappa?"
   INDEX 01 06:10:00
TRACK 04 AUDIO
   TITLE "The Way I See It Barry… - You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here"
   INDEX 01 17:43:00  
TRACK 05 AUDIO
   TITLE "Aerobics In Bondage"
   INDEX 01 21:24:00
TRACK 06 AUDIO
   TITLE "Stick It Out"
   INDEX 01 24:24:00
TRACK 07 AUDIO
   TITLE "Let's Make The Water Turn Black '88"
   INDEX 01 26:09:00  
TRACK 08 AUDIO
   TITLE "Oh No '88"
   INDEX 01 29:08:00  
TRACK 09 AUDIO
   TITLE "Tell Me You Love Me (Tinseltown"
   INDEX 01 30:22:00  
TRACK 10 AUDIO
   TITLE "Dirty Love (YCDTOSA Vol 6)"
   INDEX 01 32:31:00  
TRACK 11 AUDIO
   TITLE "Magic Fingers (YCDTOSA Vol 6)"
   INDEX 01 35:12:00  
TRACK 12 AUDIO
   TITLE "Debra Kadabra"
   INDEX 01 37:30:00  
TRACK 13 AUDIO
   TITLE "I Can't Stand It '71"
   INDEX 01 41:24:00
TRACK 14 AUDIO
   TITLE "The Young Sophisticate (Tinseltown)"
   INDEX 01 42:05:00
TRACK 15 AUDIO
   TITLE "Jones Crushier (Baby Snakes)"
   INDEX 01 44:42:00
TRACK 16 AUDIO
   TITLE "Teenage Prostitute"
   INDEX 01 47:40:00
TRACK 17 AUDIO
   TITLE "Cheepnis"
   INDEX 01 49:57:00
TRACK 18 AUDIO
   TITLE "What Ever Happened To All The Fun In The World?"
   INDEX 01 54:18:00
TRACK 19 AUDIO
   TITLE "Tink Walks Amok"
   INDEX 01 54:51:00
TRACK 20 AUDIO
   TITLE "(Approximate) - Talk"
   INDEX 01 58:32:00
TRACK 21 AUDIO
   TITLE "St Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast"
   INDEX 01 63:00:00
TRACK 22 AUDIO
   TITLE "FZ-Interview"
   INDEX 01 67:37:00
TRACK 23 AUDIO
   TITLE "Can't Afford No Shoes"
   INDEX 01 68:10:00
TRACK 24 AUDIO
   TITLE "Talk - Ralph Stuffs His Shoes - Story; About Junior Mintz Boogie"
   INDEX 01 70:42:00
TRACK 25 AUDIO
   TITLE "Junior Mintz Boogie"
   INDEX 01 90:16:00  
TRACK 26 AUDIO
   TITLE "Bognor Regis?…"
   INDEX 01 93:10:00
TRACK 27 AUDIO
   TITLE "What Will This Evening Bring Me This Morning?"
   INDEX 01 97:50:00  
TRACK 28 AUDIO
   TITLE "Talk"
   INDEX 01 101:04:00
TRACK 29 AUDIO
   TITLE "Tears Begin To Fall (Junior Mintz B-Side)"
   INDEX 01 105:11:00
TRACK 30 AUDIO
   TITLE "Jelly-Roll Gum Drop"
   INDEX 01 107:57:00
TRACK 31 AUDIO
   TITLE "Anyway The Wind Blows"
   INDEX 01 110:21:00  
TRACK 32 AUDIO
   TITLE "You Didn't Try To Call Me"
   INDEX 01 113:10:00  
TRACK 33 AUDIO
   TITLE "Dog Breath Variations (Uncle Meat - Vinyl Version?)"
   INDEX 01 117:10:00
TRACK 34 AUDIO
   TITLE "Talk"
   INDEX 01 119:53:00  
TRACK 35 AUDIO
   TITLE "Cruising For Burgers ('76, In New York)"
   INDEX 01 132:28:00  
TRACK 36 AUDIO
   TITLE "FZ Interview"
   INDEX 01 142:53:00
TRACK 37 AUDIO
   TITLE "Cruising For Burgers ('71)"
   INDEX 01 143:29:00  
TRACK 38 AUDIO
   TITLE "Cruising For Burgers (Uncle Meat)"
   INDEX 01 146:20:00  
TRACK 39 AUDIO
   TITLE "Talk (end of first part)"
   INDEX 01 148:40:00