some questions on FZ's lyrics

[SOFA]

Hey guac, my man! Good to read you!

FZ was examining articles of feminine underclothing / panties; not looking at a pornographic magazine. [T]wat book (and I may be letting my sordid imagination get the better of me here) refers to the panties being stuck together with some sort of bodily fluid...

Nifty assessment...
Tho' it seems a stretch, for me. First off, FZ was always being handed different stuff on stage - even during the "call for panties". In the same rap, he's handed a note that he reads, and then slams the writer for spelling wearing wrong...
Plus, his immediate response was "He's already got that one", which to me implies someone (Zeets?) in the band had an identical object. Extrapolating your assessment, someone had an identical pair of panties, stuck together at the crotch? I dunno, Bro.
He goes on to state that the audience's supply of panties was "less than gratifying" (or something to that effect, I don't have the lyrics in front of me). He didn't make it sound like he was being deluged with panties.
And at the end of the rap he introduces Vinnie "on drums - and booklet".
Something to ponder further, I guess.

Ben Watson suggests that the references to "buff that tiny ruby"....."straighten up his turban"......"eject a little ooze" are references to clitoral stimulation, penile erection and ejaculation.

Heh-heh... "Hold your fire, men; he's apparently unarmed..."
Here's yet another spot where Ben and I diverge in our assessment - tho' I agree that the ooze is ejaculate. I've always felt that those lines were linked to the 'Swami' that FZ puts down in Cosmik Debris (forget his name just now, but Frank spent some time with this guy, and wound up quite unimpressed).
The ruby (to me) is the red dot that Hindi often sport on their foreheads. Straightening the turban indicates getting ready to make some kind of 'mystic' pronouncement and then eject a little ooze refers to that pronouncement as being bullshit - as in, "he's just jacking off".
Again, who knows? We could all be way off base on the whole thing.
SOFA

[guacamole]

Thanks SOFA - your explanation makes sense to me now (it's a while since I listened to the piece in question - your memory obviously serves you better than mine does !).

The red dot which Hindu people mark on their foreheads is called bhindi which merely means finger ( the vegetable Okra is sometimes referred to as Bhindi or Lady's Finger ).

I am also led to believe that the guru who FZ was unimpressed with was a chap called Sri Chimnoy ( the guy who had John McLaughlin and Carlos Santana as "followers" ) I think he was alos appointed as some sorta spiritual / meditation thingy at the New York United Nations building.

[Bálint]

Hi everyone,

I have some mo' QUETIONS here, this time it's about Bobby Brown:

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1. "I got a cheerleader here wants to help with my paper"

is it in this case a testpaper in the "famous school" - right?

2. "...fucked this dyke " - is it a girl? In a german translation I found that it is for "lesbian" Hm?

3. Who can Freddie be?

4. "Aw, she tried to make me say "when" " - What is this "when" for?

5. "She had my balls in a vice, but she left the dick
I guess it's still hooked on, but now it shoots too quick"
- Do I understand it? Or does it have a kind of hidden meaning?

6. "Watch me now, I'm goin down," - does "giong down" has some special (sexual?) meaning here? Or is it just the fall of B. Brown?

and: any other comments are also welcome.

Thanks for everybody - B.

[Studio Tan]

Being european with a different environment and raising than americans it should be funny to give my interpretentions on this text. Don't take this for real tho. Some American would probably give the right answers later.

1. help with my paper:  I think, like you do, its some sort of exam. We know of Zappas thoughts of graduats and exams (as well as cheerleaders and his difficulties to get layed in highschool)

2. Dyke is slang for a crossdressed homosexual, right?

3. Freddie Mercury was one of the most known openly homosexuals in shobiz. I don't think it referes to him tho but he just uses the name to make a point.
(and it rhymes with 'ready')

4 Say when. Like iI'll pour your glass 'til you 'say when' (you like me to stop)

5. Premature ejaculation?

6. 'Going down' means kneelin in front to give a blow job.

Thats  my guesses.  Let's see if european filthy thoughts are like american filthy thoughts  

[SOFA]

1. help with my paper:

Pretty good you two. It doesn't have to be a test / exam tho'. Usually, in US 'higher' education, a course would require several 'papers". A paper would be an expose on what was studied. So, essentially, you're correct.

2. Dyke = lesbian, a female homosexual.

3. Freddie = the name of the Dyke - and tho' I love the attempted connection with Freddie Mercury, that connection doesn't exist here.

4 Say when. Like iI'll pour your glass 'til you 'say when' (you like me to stop)

Very Good!

5. Premature ejaculation?

Very Good some more!

6. 'Going down' means kneelin in front to give a blow job.

Return of the Son of Very Good!
Tho' "going down"  basically means oral sex, as it can be done in a hetero fashion too. But, correct in this case.

[Z Woof]

Bobby Brown was a homo.  He was normal at first in high school after the women.  But after graduating and trying to get a job (EDITOR), a gig, or in a movie as an actor Bobby goes gay and puts things up his butt.  I think hampster up his butt sounds better.  But I'm an American.

Americans will do ANYTHING to get A HEAD.

Thanks for your insight SOFA, I love that song, SOFA that is.  My name, Z Woof, has absolutely nothing to do with FZ.  My Romanian boss called me that because she couldn't speak English well.  She called gay people, "happy people".  

I know an Hungarian babe and I asked her how to say wolf in Hungarian and she said, "Focker".  I told her that was kinda funny in American.  Then completely out of the blue she said, "Really, we have another word that is funny.  When I say goodbye to my Mom we say "kisses" and the word we use is "pussy."  So I just had to ask her how do you say, "Wolf kisses?"  That's right, it's FOCKER PUSSY.  Now my wife gets mad at me when I call for my little baby puppy Polly to give me some kisses.  She is so cruel.

Jimmy Buffet sings, "Some people say there's a woman to blame, but I know, IT'S ALL WOMENS' FAULT."

My wife has a crack in her head but her hair covers that.  It's the same across the nation, and globe I guess, the male discrimination.  I mean what could be wrong for me to call my puppy Polly by screaming, "Focker Pussy, POW POW POW,"  She is a Methodist, my wife, not Polly.

Hey SOFA, my wife and I are in dispute over how big the Montana pony is.  I say you hold up your hand and use your thumb and forefinger about 2 1/2 inches.  She says it's holding your hand 1 foot off the ground.  So which is it?  Come across.  Be a real straight arrow with me so I can ride in your bus.

[SOFA]

Hey SOFA, my wife and I are in dispute over how big the Montana pony is.  I say you hold up your hand and use your thumb and forefinger about 2 1/2 inches.  She says it's holding your hand 1 foot off the ground.  So which is it?  Come across.  Be a real straight arrow with me so I can ride in your bus.

Pygmy Ponies range in size like any other mammal; the average adult PP is approx 60 inches tall (1.5 meters, for all of you EU spewers), much smaller than the BHJ Belgian Draft Horses, which are almost 2 kilometers tall...
Tho' I realize you are at odds with your cruel wife on this, she is closer to reality than you. 2 1/2 inches = My Little Pony (not Mighty Little, the PP of Montana fame), so I can see how you became confused. Plus, it's not unusual for guys to exagerate the size of their PP's...
Remember Z Woof, it's not the size of your PP, but how you ride with it (I would say ask your wife, but she would probably say that your PP is adequate - being as cruel as you state).
So if you want to believe your PP is 2 1/2 inches, I say go for it! Maybe have some T-shirts or bumperstickers done up with a nifty corporate logo and the size of your PP emplazoned on them. That's how a REAL American would handle such cruel diversity.
Marketing, Z Woof, marketing...

[Z Woof]

   I feel so stoopid, again

Of course you must be right because you make it sound like you are.  That's why I'm going to pay attention to you.

What really is sad is she is right again.  BTW, if I do use your marketing suggestion I would have to make the PP very colorful because I'm really into color, lots of them.  I'm trying to imagine it now.

I don't sing or play in a band I'm just one of those consumers.  But how come those that do play can't play FZ songs?

Is it a grand design by FZ or what?

[Bálint]

I asked her how to say wolf in Hungarian and she said, "Focker".

Sorry to say: not true. Wolf in hungarian is "farkas" - you can check it out here.

(Our "s" in pronounced like "sh" in english.)

[guacamole]

nifty site Balint.
barnyborbe bujit balfacan  

[Bálint]

Hey, you've left out a few letters: "báránybőrbe bújt balfácán" :-)

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Anyway, this will not be a question about lyrics, but I didn't want to open a new thread just for this. so:

Does anyone have the 1st song of 1972 nov. 11 (Petit Wazoo, Washington) show? All the guys I know (including me) has is with the first song missing, I don't know why, but it would be great to have it. it is:

I'm Not Satisfied

So does anyone have it? Is there a way to share it with me?...

Thank you!

B

[Z Woof]

Balint

Thanks.  Farkasfog = wolf's tooth

[Bálint]

aaand one more question:

I tried to investigate the "meaning" of LEATHER in FZ's myth, but i think I failed. O did I not? Does it mean something special, or nothing more that I think of now? Is it just some stupidity to repeat here and there? Help meeeeee!!!!

Lätherrrrr!!

B

[SOFA]

I tried to investigate the "meaning" of LEATHER in FZ's myth, but i think I failed. O did I not? Does it mean something special, or nothing more that I think of now? Is it just some stupidity to repeat here and there? Help meeeeee!!!!

Most (but not all) the time when FZ refers to Leather, he is refering to the preferred clothing worn by S&M fetishists. So, for the most part, Leather is a reference to sexual deviance. FZ was always fascinated by the topic of sex, and especially its deviant forms.

[Bálint]

hERE'S MY NEW QUESTION:

(uh, sorry, ALL CAPS...)

In the 77-78 Press Release FZ talks about "MARTIN COHEN AND ASSORTED ROE'S..."

(3rd page)

What can it be? Why is that? What is that? What's it for?