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grandmothers 01/'04 - St. Niklaas
« on: March 03, 2004, 10:06:56 AM »

Anyone interested in the Grandmothers' concert (3x cdr) begin this year in St. Niklaas (Belgium)?  Got no setlist by now (haven't got the time yet).  Great show!
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Re:grandmothers 01/'04 - St. Niklaas
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2004, 10:21:12 AM »

Sure !! I'd like to hear that. Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2004, 10:34:12 AM »

Sure !! I'd like to hear that. Smiley

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now, just help me out.  My first...trade on this forum.  Send me yr address & you'll get a copy... (or is this going on a different way? --- correct English? ) grtz.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2004, 11:57:42 AM »

That's right. I'm going to send you my address and you can send me the music. Smiley
Now, who will be next in the vine ? I don't know yet...
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Re:grandmothers 01/'04 - St. Niklaas
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2004, 12:41:42 PM »

... erh that would be me!
I had actually planned to go to this concert but couldn't for several reasons. So...

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What a nice intro-Belgian vine we have going here Wink
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Re:grandmothers 01/'04 - St. Niklaas
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2004, 01:09:33 PM »

Sorry guys, I'm not into this one, otherwise we could have started playing cards.  Grin

By the way, for the non Belgians among us (where? where?) St. Niklaas is a Belgian city in which every year a world famous hot-air balloon event/meeting takes place.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2004, 04:19:26 AM »

What a nice intro-Belgian vine we have going here Wink

Let's just sing the Brabaçonne on that one!  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2004, 04:25:35 AM »

Let's just sing the Brabaçonne on that one!  Wink

You mean to tell me you know the lyrics to that??  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2004, 06:07:03 AM »

Hey, guys, after the Bergian turn, pass it towards a Hungarian direction!!

Anyone about the setlist?

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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2004, 06:19:54 AM »

You mean to tell me you know the lyrics to that??  Grin

Well, don't you?   Wink  In Flemish it starts like: OOOH dierbaar België OOOH
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But, what the ***?!  Let's talk about real music!
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2004, 06:21:10 AM »

Hey, guys, after the Bergian turn, pass it towards a Hungarian direction!!

Anyone about the setlist?

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I'm working on the setlist, but I'm not that good at it.  I send it this weekend to vrnzr and make some good work of the tracks.  If anyone in this vine can help, you're welcome...
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2004, 02:29:19 PM »

Hi everyone. This is my first post, so please cut me some slack Undecided

I like the vine concept. It's an excellent way to get the shows to the listener. I do have a couple of remarks, however.

The cdr has done good things for the trader community: the cdr can have tracks, can be better maintained and is easier to check for total recording time. But the most important advantage is that a digital recording does not lose quality when digitally duplicated.

Most traders find the quality of the recording very important. When looking for a concert recording, a lot of traders are looking for the best available quality. Lucky for them, cdr has brought a lot of master and 1st generation recordings in the circuit.

I have seen a couple of references to Jon Naurin's excellent fz shows document. In his list, Jon also defines the quality of the recordings he has.

When talking about vines, it is my humble opinion, that vines should only be used to cirulate the best available quality, and only in the best possible way.
Shows have to be complete and the quality should (at least try to) be what Jon mentions in his fz shows document.

Converting recordings to mp3 makes them lose quality and gives gaps between tracks. By doing so, you bring a lot of less qualtity material in the trading circuit, and that's a shame.
You don't have the choice when you're downloading, but with vines, you do.

If you take the Grandmothers concert that Ive is offering, it is good to know (and it should even be pointed out) that this is a master recording (digitally recorded on minidisc -> harddisc -> cdr)
The data for this show, by the way, are as follows:

Napoleon Murphy Brock: lead vocals, alto & tenor saxophones, flute
Roy Estrada: bass, pachuco falsettos, operatic madness
Don Preston: piano, keyboards, electronics, vocals
Ken Rosser: electric guitar, stunt guitar, loud guitar
Christopher Garcia: drumset, marimba, percussion, vocals

set one: florentine pogen * twenty small cigars * lonely little girl * take your clothes off when you dance * what's the ugliest part of your body * chunga's revenge * big swifty * evelyn, a modified dog * big swifty * andy * uncle meat * drum solo * t'mershi duween * <the story of a pound for a brown> * pound for a brown * <shop talk> * i'm the slime * oh no * trouble every day
set two: hungry freaks, daddy * sofa * carolina hard-core ecstasy * let's move to cleveland * village of the sun * echidna's arf (of you) * the idiot bastard son * can't afford no shoes * montana * in the sky * mother people * anything you wanna do

Just to give an example, it would be a pity to offer this show in mp3. You have the best available quality to start your vine, so why not keep it that way.

What I'm trying to say is: I really like this vine thing, but, please, check what you have and only use best available quality, complete stuff, and don't rip it to mp3.

Try not to spoil the trader circuit with copies of lesser quality.
I, for one, will be very grateful. And I'm pretty sure that I won't be the only one. Smiley
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Re:grandmothers 01/'04 - St. Niklaas
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2004, 04:03:13 AM »

On it's way to you, vrnzr!  Thanks to UniMuta for the good work on the setlist!  
Remember his words: please do not convert this 3cdr to mp3-format...

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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2004, 06:54:34 AM »


Remember his words: please do not convert this 3cdr to mp3-format...


Aye, Aye, Sir !!  Wink
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Re:grandmothers 01/'04 - St. Niklaas - correct setlist
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2004, 12:23:34 PM »

okay.

don't know what went wrong, but I managed to mess up the setlist for the St.Niklaas concert. The correct setlist is as follows:

set one: florentine pogen * twenty small cigars * lonely little girl * take your clothes off when you dance * what's the ugliest part of your body * chunga's revenge * big swifty * evelyn, a modified dog * big swifty * andy * uncle meat * drum solo * t'mershi duween * <the story of a pound for a brown> * pound for a brown * <shop talk> * i'm the slime

set two: hungry freaks, daddy * sofa * carolina hard-core ecstasy * let's move to cleveland * oh no * trouble every day * village of the sun * echidna's arf (of you) * the idiot bastard son * can't afford no shoes * montana * in the sky * mother people * anything you wanna do

This is how it was played & how you can hear it on the discs. set one = disc one; set two = disc two & three

thanks for asking, Ive.
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