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Poole Continuity
« on: December 09, 2003, 01:33:02 PM »

I understand the concept of the poodle or modified dog as being a symbol for the repressed or modified-by-society average american, as that's the only interpretation I've theard that works on the levels of so many songs that mention them.

But I think the subject, because it is so vast, deserves more discussion. Here, bring up a song that mentions poodles or dogs or says "arf" in it and try to interpret the meaning of its use, if there is any.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2003, 03:59:39 AM »

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I understand the concept of the poodle or modified dog as being a symbol for the repressed or modified-by-society average american, as that's the only interpretation I've theard that works on the levels of so many songs that mention them.
But I think the subject, because it is so vast, deserves more discussion. Here, bring up a song that mentions poodles or dogs or says "arf" in it and try to interpret the meaning of its use, if there is any.

I tend to accept FZ's own explanation for the proo-liffer-ashum of poodle references in his work: he stated that he used poodles (and other bits of linking CC) in his work the same way that Rembrandt used brown paint in all of his colors for painting - to add a "texture" or quality that unifies the work, without that texture "taking over" the work. This explanation works well when one considers how many times the dog reference pops up, and in all the different 'circumstances' in which it appears.
The 'brown' is there, not necessarily to be taken as a statement of brown, but to provide continuity between disparate works...
Or not.
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Re:Poole Continuity
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2003, 09:45:54 AM »


Repressed nature; groomed, clipped-down life. The natural world made unnatural by humans' penchant for materialism. I think that for Frank, it illustrated this very American way of bending over for the mass media -- while at the same time, he was, for obvious reasons, vastly amused by these poor little creatures, shaped by humans in a vain attempt to contain their own natural impulses, which scare them because of how they've been trained to compensate with religion, artificial appearance, and other things for their own insecurities, themselves media-based.

Now, if we could figure out what he saw in echidnas....... Smiley
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