Comments on: The Year Of The Freak Is Imminent http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent Frank Zappa news, weird links, lumpy gravy. Wanna bun? Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:10:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Moggio's Moldy Oreos http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-18206 Moggio's Moldy Oreos Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:58:34 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-18206 Just to add to the stew...the Grateful Dead actually only tolerated taping until around '83 or '84. Garcia didn't care, and said, "when we are done with it the fans can do what they want with it." But, they didn't get rich from their music until the fluke hit single in '87. Real bootlegs, sold in stores and record shows, were something they despised as much as Eff Zee. They would usually confiscate tapes from tapers if they caught them in the 70s and early 80s, but the amount of people who went to incredible amounts of trouble to document the shows was too much for the crew to stop. So, around '84 they started the taping section and sanctioned taping officially. By '94 store sold boots became a massive problem, a sounman got canned and the band decided it was time to listen to the fans and release their vault tapes and make some money off of that market, which was a very wise move, that has been followed by many, many bands since. The thing with the zft seems to be a personal thing gone to a horrible extreme since the business model of communicating with the fan base, selling live downloads or cds of shows, etc, has been proven to be a viable one. I can't claim to know what Eff Zee would think of it, but we all know he was wickedly smart, so...who knows. Peace. Just to add to the stew…the Grateful Dead actually only tolerated taping until around ‘83 or ‘84. Garcia didn’t care, and said, “when we are done with it the fans can do what they want with it.” But, they didn’t get rich from their music until the fluke hit single in ‘87. Real bootlegs, sold in stores and record shows, were something they despised as much as Eff Zee. They would usually confiscate tapes from tapers if they caught them in the 70s and early 80s, but the amount of people who went to incredible amounts of trouble to document the shows was too much for the crew to stop.

So, around ‘84 they started the taping section and sanctioned taping officially.

By ‘94 store sold boots became a massive problem, a sounman got canned and the band decided it was time to listen to the fans and release their vault tapes and make some money off of that market, which was a very wise move, that has been followed by many, many bands since.

The thing with the zft seems to be a personal thing gone to a horrible extreme since the business model of communicating with the fan base, selling live downloads or cds of shows, etc, has been proven to be a viable one. I can’t claim to know what Eff Zee would think of it, but we all know he was wickedly smart, so…who knows.

Peace.

]]> By: Moggio's Moldy Oreos http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-18205 Moggio's Moldy Oreos Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:57:27 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-18205 Just to add to the stew...the Grateful Dead actually only tolerated taping until around '83 or '84. Garcia didn't care, and said, "when we are done with it the fans can do what they want with it." But, they didn't get rich from their music until the fluke hit single in '87. Real bootlegs, sold in stores and record shows, were something they despised as much as Eff Zee. They would usually confiscate tapes from tapers if they caught them in the 70s and early 80s, but the amount of people who went to incredible amounts of trouble to document the shows was too much for the crew to stop. By '94 store sold boots became a massive problem, a sounman got canned and the band decided it was time to listen to the fans and release their vault tapes and make some money off of that market, which was a very wise move, that has been followed by many, many bands since. The thing with the zft seems to be a personal thing gone to a horrible extreme since the business model of communicating with the fan base, selling live downloads or cds of shows, etc, has been proven to be a viable one. I can't claim to know what Eff Zee would think of it, but we all know he was wickedly smart, so...who knows. Peace. Just to add to the stew…the Grateful Dead actually only tolerated taping until around ‘83 or ‘84. Garcia didn’t care, and said, “when we are done with it the fans can do what they want with it.” But, they didn’t get rich from their music until the fluke hit single in ‘87. Real bootlegs, sold in stores and record shows, were something they despised as much as Eff Zee. They would usually confiscate tapes from tapers if they caught them in the 70s and early 80s, but the amount of people who went to incredible amounts of trouble to document the shows was too much for the crew to stop. By ‘94 store sold boots became a massive problem, a sounman got canned and the band decided it was time to listen to the fans and release their vault tapes and make some money off of that market, which was a very wise move, that has been followed by many, many bands since.

The thing with the zft seems to be a personal thing gone to a horrible extreme since the business model of communicating with the fan base, selling live downloads or cds of shows, etc, has been proven to be a viable one. I can’t claim to know what Eff Zee would think of it, but we all know he was wickedly smart, so…who knows.

Peace.

]]> By: Chuck http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17196 Chuck Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:43:39 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17196 What we need is a whole lot of dummy targets so the ZFT waste a lot of time chasing them. Heck I am in a very very very very ocassional Zappa covers band... one gig, four rehearsals in five years.... be kinda nice to actually get a C&D letter... What we need is a whole lot of dummy targets so the ZFT waste a lot of time chasing them. Heck I am in a very very very very ocassional Zappa covers band… one gig, four rehearsals in five years…. be kinda nice to actually get a C&D letter…

]]> By: urbangraffito http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17186 urbangraffito Sat, 05 Jan 2008 02:35:03 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17186 This isn't about Zappa's so called legacy. That is secure. What all this litigation is about is an attempt on behalf of the ZFT (and other like-minded copyright holders) to gain a precedent whereby they can gain even more rights than they already presently possess. Sooner or later someone with enough financial wherewithal will fight them in court. That is exactly what they want. Either way, the ordinary fan will be the *big* loser. Because whatever rights *they* gain, are rights that *we* lose (i.e. fair use). Doesn't anyone else see what is going on? This isn't just about one weblog, or a handful of tribute bands -- it's an outright attack on personal freedom itself... This isn’t about Zappa’s so called legacy. That is secure. What all this litigation is about is an attempt on behalf of the ZFT (and other like-minded copyright holders) to gain a precedent whereby they can gain even more rights than they already presently possess. Sooner or later someone with enough financial wherewithal will fight them in court. That is exactly what they want. Either way, the ordinary fan will be the *big* loser. Because whatever rights *they* gain, are rights that *we* lose (i.e. fair use). Doesn’t anyone else see what is going on? This isn’t just about one weblog, or a handful of tribute bands — it’s an outright attack on personal freedom itself…

]]> By: walter loder-rubbish http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17180 walter loder-rubbish Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:12:55 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17180 In case I garbled the first part of that statement - I meant they should unite to launch a counter-suit against the ZFT for its undemocratic/anti-competitive actions. In case I garbled the first part of that statement - I meant they should unite to launch a counter-suit against the ZFT for its undemocratic/anti-competitive actions.

]]> By: walter loder-rubbish http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17178 walter loder-rubbish Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:09:52 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17178 All the bands/non-download-websites being sued by the ZFT should get together and use any spare cash they have setting up a charitable foundation to raise money by donations from members of the public to fund their case against the ZFT. I'm sure a case can be constructed that what the ZFT is doing is in fact ILLEGAL because it is undemocratic. Using legislation pertaining to "dramatic performances" to shut down a non-theatrical musical event is a bit of an iffy proposition, to start with. Even if a person's name doubles as a company trademark - the assumption that the use of that person's name, in some context which DOES NOT involve an actual corporate logo, constitutes fraud is also a bit ridiculous. Even if Zappa's body of compositions do not belong to ASCAP, no judge should need an explanation of how it's just plain unfair to demand that - for example - members of some two-bit bar band should apply for special permission and a license just so they can play "Watermelon In Easter Hay" one evening at a gig that no one would think to record and distribute. This is a fight that we could win. The bootleg issue will take longer. All the bands/non-download-websites being sued by the ZFT should get together and use any spare cash they have setting up a charitable foundation to raise money by donations from members of the public to fund their case against the ZFT. I’m sure a case can be constructed that what the ZFT is doing is in fact ILLEGAL because it is undemocratic.
Using legislation pertaining to “dramatic performances” to shut down a non-theatrical musical event is a bit of an iffy proposition, to start with.
Even if a person’s name doubles as a company trademark - the assumption that the use of that person’s name, in some context which DOES NOT involve an actual corporate logo, constitutes fraud is also a bit ridiculous.
Even if Zappa’s body of compositions do not belong to ASCAP, no judge should need an explanation of how it’s just plain unfair to demand that - for example - members of some two-bit bar band should apply for special permission and a license just so they can play “Watermelon In Easter Hay” one evening at a gig that no one would think to record and distribute.

This is a fight that we could win. The bootleg issue will take longer.

]]> By: nudephotosofgail.com http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17156 nudephotosofgail.com Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:08:06 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17156 check us out!! check us out!!

]]> By: Jamez http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17083 Jamez Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:49:09 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17083 I respect all the Zappas (even Diva!) but sometimes Gail can be 'overzealous' with her litigation. I can see why she's so protective of Frank's work, after all he was the greatest musical genius of the 20th century ..and her late husband, but anything that keeps FZ's work alive, if publishing etc. is paid for, should be a good thing, shouldn't it? I respect all the Zappas (even Diva!) but sometimes Gail can be ‘overzealous’ with her litigation. I can see why she’s so protective of Frank’s work, after all he was the greatest musical genius of the 20th century ..and her late husband, but anything that keeps FZ’s work alive, if publishing etc. is paid for, should be a good thing, shouldn’t it?

]]> By: debutante daisy http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17029 debutante daisy Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:03:08 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17029 mcnastie says: December 29th, 2007 at 8:54 am right-o, urbangraffit-o. you agree with me, so that means you must be smart. i find it ironic that zappa used to joke about how his spawn’s last name was the thing that was gonna get them in trouble. seems to me that if not for their last name dweezil, ahmet, and moon unit would all be working at wal-mart or del taco or some shit. they deserve all the flak they get from the hardcores. entitlement’s a bitch. and as far as the crime of feeding off their patriarch’s corpse is concerned, they’re the worst offenders by far. amen to that mcnastie! --------->at least ahmet is doing something original but i have to wonder if he would be as successful as he is without the zappa name? probably not, eh? this is a quote from his web site. "I’m the third of four children born to the late rock musician/ composer, Frank Zappa, and a super-powered psychic witch businesswoman named Gail." This is a blurb about his book, The Monstrous Memoirs of Mighty McFearless. Prior to my manuscript’s publication, and only a few days after I actually finished it, a copy was leaked and caused quite a frenzy among the studios. In the end I’m proud to say that Disney and Jerry Bruckheimer films won a bidding war between two other studios and purchased the film rights to my book for $1.5 million, which I’ve been told is an unprecedented deal for a first time children’s book author! All I know is that I can buy a lot of doughnuts with that kind of money and I have the belly to prove it. The Monstrous Memoirs of a Mighty McFearless was published in the U.S. by Random House in July 2006 and has received glowing reviews. Disney is now in pre-production on the film version and I can’t wait to see what my monsters will look like when brought to life on the big screen. In other mind-blowingly good news, in October of 2006 I was tapped by The Jim Henson Company to executive produce and write a treatment for a full-length feature version of the 1980’s television classic, Fraggle Rock. Doesn't sound to me like the Zappa family is hurting for money now does it? mcnastie says:

December 29th, 2007 at 8:54 am
right-o, urbangraffit-o. you agree with me, so that means you must be smart.

i find it ironic that zappa used to joke about how his spawn’s last name was the thing that was gonna get them in trouble. seems to me that if not for their last name dweezil, ahmet, and moon unit would all be working at wal-mart or del taco or some shit.

they deserve all the flak they get from the hardcores. entitlement’s a bitch. and as far as the crime of feeding off their patriarch’s corpse is concerned, they’re the worst offenders by far.

amen to that mcnastie!

———>at least ahmet is doing something original but i have to wonder if he would be as successful as he is without the zappa name? probably not, eh?

this is a quote from his web site. “I’m the third of four children born to the late rock musician/ composer, Frank Zappa, and a super-powered psychic witch businesswoman named Gail.”

This is a blurb about his book, The Monstrous Memoirs of Mighty McFearless.
Prior to my manuscript’s publication, and only a few days after I actually finished it, a copy was leaked and caused quite a frenzy among the studios. In the end I’m proud to say that Disney and Jerry Bruckheimer films won a bidding war between two other studios and purchased the film rights to my book for $1.5 million, which I’ve been told is an unprecedented deal for a first time children’s book author! All I know is that I can buy a lot of doughnuts with that kind of money and I have the belly to prove it.

The Monstrous Memoirs of a Mighty McFearless was published in the U.S. by Random House in July 2006 and has received glowing reviews. Disney is now in pre-production on the film version and I can’t wait to see what my monsters will look like when brought to life on the big screen.

In other mind-blowingly good news, in October of 2006 I was tapped by The Jim Henson Company to executive produce and write a treatment for a full-length feature version of the 1980’s television classic, Fraggle Rock.

Doesn’t sound to me like the Zappa family is hurting for money now does it?

]]> By: ZarFT http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17026 ZarFT Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:59:08 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17026 Aw, go F yourself!!! (thank you, i will) Aw, go F yourself!!!

(thank you, i will)

]]> By: Bob Again http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17025 Bob Again Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:58:08 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17025 These sites, which are so-o-o-o offensive to the likes of the tiny minds at ZFT, have been the only thing keeping my interest in all things Frank alive - that is, besides the m-u-s-i-c, of course. We all know what the F in ZFT stands for. Give me an F!!! These sites, which are so-o-o-o offensive to the likes of the tiny minds at ZFT, have been the only thing keeping my interest in all things Frank alive - that is, besides the m-u-s-i-c, of course.

We all know what the F in ZFT stands for. Give me an F!!!

]]> By: Andre Cholmondeley http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17019 Andre Cholmondeley Sat, 29 Dec 2007 09:33:58 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17019 Help, I'm Iraq!! Help, I’m Iraq!!

]]> By: mcnastie http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17015 mcnastie Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:54:55 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17015 right-o, urbangraffit-o. you agree with me, so that means you must be smart. i find it ironic that zappa used to joke about how his spawn's last name was the thing that was gonna get them in trouble. seems to me that if not for their last name dweezil, ahmet, and moon unit would all be working at wal-mart or del taco or some shit. they deserve all the flak they get from the hardcores. entitlement's a bitch. and as far as the crime of feeding off their patriarch's corpse is concerned, they're the worst offenders by far. right-o, urbangraffit-o. you agree with me, so that means you must be smart.

i find it ironic that zappa used to joke about how his spawn’s last name was the thing that was gonna get them in trouble. seems to me that if not for their last name dweezil, ahmet, and moon unit would all be working at wal-mart or del taco or some shit.

they deserve all the flak they get from the hardcores. entitlement’s a bitch. and as far as the crime of feeding off their patriarch’s corpse is concerned, they’re the worst offenders by far.

]]> By: urbangraffito http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17014 urbangraffito Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:37:02 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17014 <blockquote> mcnastie says: December 29th, 2007 at 8:17 am urbangraffito - zappa’s music was documented on master tapes. it WAS played, in it’s definitive form, while zappa was alive. the ‘little black dots’ were just one of the means to the end. i even feel that way about the yellow shark stuff. if zappa just handed them pages of ‘little black dots’ instead of working with them intesively over a long period of time, that project would have sounded completely different. this is why i don’t believe treating zappa’s music canonically makes much sense. i wanna hear zpz like i wanna hear some random douchebag guitar wanker play a note-perfect set of hendrix covers - that is to say, NOT AT ALL. </blockquote> You are right, mcnastie, treating Zappa’s music canonically makes no sense to me either. When I listen to a tribute band, or any band for that matter, play Zappa's music, I am mostly interested in their interpretation of the music. I've already heard the standard, note-for-note, definitive versions Zappa documented while he was alive. Zappa's music isn't an aberration which exists outside of musical and popular culture, but within the context of that culture -- just as it will continue to exist as part of a future musical culture hitherto unknown to any of us... A quote from urbangraffito:

mcnastie says:
December 29th, 2007 at 8:17 am

urbangraffito - zappa’s music was documented on master tapes. it WAS played, in it’s definitive form, while zappa was alive. the ‘little black dots’ were just one of the means to the end. i even feel that way about the yellow shark stuff. if zappa just handed them pages of ‘little black dots’ instead of working with them intesively over a long period of time, that project would have sounded completely different.

this is why i don’t believe treating zappa’s music canonically makes much sense. i wanna hear zpz like i wanna hear some random douchebag guitar wanker play a note-perfect set of hendrix covers - that is to say, NOT AT ALL.

You are right, mcnastie, treating Zappa’s music canonically makes no sense to me either. When I listen to a tribute band, or any band for that matter, play Zappa’s music, I am mostly interested in their interpretation of the music. I’ve already heard the standard, note-for-note, definitive versions Zappa documented while he was alive. Zappa’s music isn’t an aberration which exists outside of musical and popular culture, but within the context of that culture — just as it will continue to exist as part of a future musical culture hitherto unknown to any of us…

]]> By: urbangraffito http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17013 urbangraffito Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:18:27 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17013 Freon P. Sandoz, let's keep the discussion on a civil level, all right? Freon P. Sandoz, let’s keep the discussion on a civil level, all right?

]]> By: mcnastie http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17012 mcnastie Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:17:11 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17012 urbangraffito - zappa's music was documented on master tapes. it WAS played, in it's definitive form, while zappa was alive. the 'little black dots' were just one of the means to the end. i even feel that way about the yellow shark stuff. if zappa just handed them pages of 'little black dots' instead of working with them intesively over a long period of time, that project would have sounded completely different. this is why i don't believe treating zappa's music canonically makes much sense. i wanna hear zpz like i wanna hear some random douchebag guitar wanker play a note-perfect set of hendrix covers - that is to say, NOT AT ALL. jane23 - is that a haiku? either way, it's devastating. the space between phrases is like, the void of death or something. totally. one small quibble, though - the last time i watched 'baby snakes', it was kinda fun. call me crazy. urbangraffito - zappa’s music was documented on master tapes. it WAS played, in it’s definitive form, while zappa was alive. the ‘little black dots’ were just one of the means to the end. i even feel that way about the yellow shark stuff. if zappa just handed them pages of ‘little black dots’ instead of working with them intesively over a long period of time, that project would have sounded completely different.

this is why i don’t believe treating zappa’s music canonically makes much sense. i wanna hear zpz like i wanna hear some random douchebag guitar wanker play a note-perfect set of hendrix covers - that is to say, NOT AT ALL.

jane23 - is that a haiku? either way, it’s devastating. the space between phrases is like, the void of death or something. totally.

one small quibble, though - the last time i watched ‘baby snakes’, it was kinda fun. call me crazy.

]]> By: Freon P. Sandoz http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17011 Freon P. Sandoz Sat, 29 Dec 2007 06:12:43 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17011 Gail needs a good fucking, and the problem is she hasn't earned it. Gail needs a good fucking, and the problem is she hasn’t earned it.

]]> By: UncleMeat http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17009 UncleMeat Sat, 29 Dec 2007 05:45:18 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17009 <i>On the other side of that coin, what would happen if the ZFT adopted a Grateful Dead (inc) type approach to taping and “use” of the material? What if the ZFT said on their answering machine “we’ll sell the recordings that FRANK ZAPPA made during his life time and in the mean time, you kids have fun making your websites and playing in your tribute bands!”</i> Yeah. Gail Z. sounds even more anal now than she did back in the day (typical of many aging democrats). But the Z kids probably in it as well. On the other hand, tribute bands are generally dismissable. But does say a pianist have to get permission from ZFT if he plays Peaches in Regalia at a nightclub (PNR now in many fake books)? Odd. How about using UncleMeat as a temporary s-name? Sorry Mrs. Z, but you don't own the language, or musick, or the Net. On the other side of that coin, what would happen if the ZFT adopted a Grateful Dead (inc) type approach to taping and “use” of the material? What if the ZFT said on their answering machine “we’ll sell the recordings that FRANK ZAPPA made during his life time and in the mean time, you kids have fun making your websites and playing in your tribute bands!”

Yeah. Gail Z. sounds even more anal now than she did back in the day (typical of many aging democrats). But the Z kids probably in it as well. On the other hand, tribute bands are generally dismissable. But does say a pianist have to get permission from ZFT if he plays Peaches in Regalia at a nightclub (PNR now in many fake books)? Odd. How about using UncleMeat as a temporary s-name? Sorry Mrs. Z, but you don’t own the language, or musick, or the Net.

]]> By: urbangraffito http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17008 urbangraffito Sat, 29 Dec 2007 05:24:28 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17008 <blockquote> gnarlyartly says: December 28th, 2007 at 11:17 pm Note that none of those bands are Grateful Dead Tribute bands. They take the jam band spirit of the Dead and put out their own original tunes (with maybe the occasional cover). Maybe it’s time for our FZ tribute bands to do the same… </blockquote> You certainly have a point, gnarlyartly. Groups like Frogg Cafe and Umphrey’s McGee combine the two successfully (original tunes and the occasional cover). The very same points you make can, and should, be applied to D’Weasel too. Sooner or later, every musician has to find his own unique voice. Still, isn't there room for both? Without festivals like Zappanale, dedicated to the music of FZ, won't the music itself just disappear? If it's not played, it only exists as little black dots in a drawer somewhere... A quote from urbangraffito:

gnarlyartly says:
December 28th, 2007 at 11:17 pm

Note that none of those bands are Grateful Dead Tribute bands. They take the jam band spirit of the Dead and put out their own original tunes (with maybe the occasional cover). Maybe it’s time for our FZ tribute bands to do the same…

You certainly have a point, gnarlyartly. Groups like Frogg Cafe and Umphrey’s McGee combine the two successfully (original tunes and the occasional cover). The very same points you make can, and should, be applied to D’Weasel too. Sooner or later, every musician has to find his own unique voice. Still, isn’t there room for both? Without festivals like Zappanale, dedicated to the music of FZ, won’t the music itself just disappear? If it’s not played, it only exists as little black dots in a drawer somewhere…

]]> By: urbangraffito http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17007 urbangraffito Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:58:33 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/hot-poop/2007/12/26/the-year-of-the-freak-is-imminent#comment-17007 <blockquote> jane23 says: December 29th, 2007 at 3:23 am Ever since he died he has not been so much fun anymore. he has not been, period. </blockquote> He's just as fun for me, right this moment, as he was when I first discovered him on my cousin's turntable 35 years ago. His music IS the best. The man may be gone. The music lives. A quote from urbangraffito:

jane23 says:
December 29th, 2007 at 3:23 am

Ever since he died
he has not been
so much fun anymore.

he has not been, period.

He’s just as fun for me, right this moment, as he was when I first discovered him on my cousin’s turntable 35 years ago. His music IS the best. The man may be gone. The music lives.

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