Comments on: Conceptual Continuity Circle

By: Jamez

Jamez — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:40:09 +0000

I wanna see Ray singin’ “Shall We Take Ourselves Seriously”, “Pick Me I’m Clean” and “You Are what You Is” amongst others.

By: Jamez

Jamez — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:28:13 +0000

Hope Ray White is on the new DVD.

By: Balint

Balint — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:56:53 +0000

(I’ve corrected the post - yes, Ray White DID sing in Banned From Utopia. Thanks ‘The Idiot’ for the info - sorry for the mistake!)

By: Roscoe Bledsoe

Roscoe Bledsoe — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:34:19 +0000

Alex says:

“Just what we need…on the heels of ZPZ DVD #1, a second one? And now a CD?! Puh-leez.”

I hear you, brother! Everybody please boycott such shit.

“The only other egregiously mishandled legacy I can think of is Capitol Records not remastering The Beatles’ catalog.”

Well, don’t forget about the utter abomination that has been dealt to Jimi Hendrix’s legacy at the hands of his money-grubbing, half-sister, Janie, & the seriously-going-deaf Eddie Kramer!

(They and the zft are the worst ever imo!)

By: Alex

Alex — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:31:24 +0000

Just what we need…on the heels of ZPZ DVD #1, a second one? And now a CD?! Puh-leez.

The only other egregiously mishandled legacy I can think of is Capitol Records not remastering The Beatles’ catalog.

But then, there’s still fan outcry for the original ‘Ruben,’ (some) ‘Hot Rats,’ and ‘Sleep Dirt.’

By: urbangraffito

urbangraffito — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:08:12 +0000

I don’t know if I’m alone in this particular thought, but to me “Conceptual Continuity” isn’t only about Eff Zee and his music, but also the spirit that music inspired in the minds and music of others — from Lowell George to George Duke to Beer For Dolphins, The Dresden Dolls, Spock’s Beard, and System of a Down just to name a few.

By: Roland

Roland — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:41:10 +0000

My mind is going: The cover band was called “The Muffin Men”. I missed - the artist formerly known as - and even Ike Willis (to whom I talked for a couple of minutes before the concert) couldn´t make it better in any way.

By: Roland

Roland — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:32:00 +0000

I have seen a cover band playing the music of - the artist formerly known as - with Ike Willis on vocals. It was far more than 10 years ago. The musicians were sponsered by a company which manufactured toilet bowls. These toilet bowls were part of the stage ambient. During the concert, the band tried to be enormously “funny”. The “oh-so-funny” saxophone player even sat on one bowl. What a laugh. I left the show. Since this experience I am anti-cover-band! When I saw the pictures of - the son the artist formerly known as - in front of projected pictures of his father, I felt deep down in my heart, that this is an absolutely false move. And as mentioned above ” … is anything less than a privileged replicant …” it´s more than true! Aren´t there any Blade Runners in L.A. any more?

By: Bálint

Bálint — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:43:13 +0000

The Idiot: “It’s true that Ray White sings Jailbait Babysitter on So Yuh Don’t Like Modern Art.”

You’re absolutely correct! I’m sorry, a mistake! - but it means then that the circle is closing in! From BFU to BFU! Thanks for the info! (I cannot update the post itself right now, I’m not at my computer.)

By: Barry's Imaginary Publisher

Barry's Imaginary Publisher — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:55:27 +0000

I think we need to separate the legal/financial shit from the music.

I, and every other contributor to this weblog, have been enthusiastic toward ZPZ since the very beginning — one need only do a search for ZPZ here for proof. From the two shows I’ve seen, it is obvious that this band tries their best to recreate EffZee’s music; and I have nothing but respect and admiration for all of the bandmembers, who’ve had to step into some very big shoes to fill — and did so more than admirably well.

Having said all that, I also do look forward to P/O coming to play Belgium some day. Simply because I love Z’s music, and love to hear as much of his music interpreted in as many different ways as possible.

By: xorg

xorg — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:45:36 +0000

I think Dweezil has done the ZPZ thing because first, he needs the money as his own career was going nowhere and secondly he and the rest of ZFT believe it will generate interest in Fronk’s catalogue. And he and his band do genuinely like playing Zippo’s music. There may be other deeper psychological reasons too, but we have no way of knowing about that…

Either way, long live KUR!

By: The Idiot

The Idiot — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:38:57 +0000

It’s true that Ray White sings Jailbait Babysitter on So Yuh Don’t Like Modern Art.

By: Hugh

Hugh — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:09:33 +0000

I feel ZFT is wrong about their beef with KUR. KUR Rocks. But let’s not diminish Dweezil’s attempt to bring Frank’s music to a wider audience. FZ records will never be matched. But there’s something about Frank’s music live that compares to no other. ZPZ is a cover band, regardless of the name. Still, I look forward to exposing my 13 year old daughter to a “live” performance of FZ music. She’s heard the original tracks. Live music at that age is very powerful and she deserves the best music still out there, Zappa!

By: Shmoolie

Shmoolie — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 20:45:47 +0000

Time would be better spent releasing FZ archival material rather than the mediocre ZPZ cover band.

By: giantalbinopenguin

giantalbinopenguin — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:58:36 +0000

Bernard, I’ve got all the ‘official’Zappa albums released during his lifetime and then some. His music can ‘live on’ with me fine through them.

Whilst there may be a point in seeing ZPZ live, when it comes to home listening you might as well listen to the originals…

Anyway, I am serious in my ZFT boycott. I know it won’t matter one jot to them, but I feel a hell of a lot better knowing my money isn’t going to them.

By: whatup

whatup — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:24:04 +0000

bernard, ZPZ ain’t FZ
it’s a cover band
Dweez “We do play all the right notes” says they got 30 “new” songs, though…
hahahaha

By: bernard

bernard — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:56:25 +0000

I don’t think so, gipenguin.
FZ music should persist.

By: giantalbinopenguin

giantalbinopenguin — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:42:46 +0000

ZPZ CDs and DVDs are off the shopping list anyway, and shall remain so.

By: bernard

bernard — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:33:23 +0000

Thus again : music being ahead of its time. More than a mirror image.
Announcing the shape of things to come.

Just listen to music, you’ll learn.

By: bernard

bernard — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:06:55 +0000

FZ was basically an Italian (IT) inspired geniuos.

ITals are extremely modern, they just smell the shape of things to come.

Just another FZ ( US / Sicilian way )lesson :

1.Play it the IT style, the Staccato way instead of Legato. All the way down.
2.Cut a long imaginary piece ( 20 min.) into smaller pieces. They might be hits.
3.Current day practice since many years :max lengt is 3 min.
4.Play nervously part after part.
5. Within the commercial world : “hits” +/- 3 min. ).
6. Then again Legato: you combine both, ” seguing”.

Result? A commercial disaster.
People just don’t understand it anymore. It’s too much.

It’s the mirror image of zapping TV or radio channels.