Comments on: Vienna ‘84

By: mcnastie

mcnastie — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:29:26 +0000

i would be the first to sign up for balint’s ‘vinnie colaiuta during his second semester in the (’80) band association’ (vcdhssit80ba). it’s as though vinnie felt bad about getting shitcanned the first time around for being greedy, and wanted to show frank some gratitude for being allowed back in the fold. the ‘80 band with vinnie and vai and bob harris on falsetto vocals is pure virtuosoville, and i believe one of the most under-rated of all zappa’s aggregations.

as for wackerman, i don’t like the way he plays grooves. he’s an impressive reader and technically flawless, but i’d rather hear dave logeman play a rock beat or a shuffle.

By: Dr Sharleena

Dr Sharleena — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:45:39 +0000

Tell you what: you join mine, i’ll join yours.
SOFA, you are in!!

By: Balint

Balint — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:16:40 +0000

The reason I like this show - much better than “Does Humor” - are the solos. Much more energy, without slowing down (Hot Plate Heaven), etc. And fun.
Sharleena: I’d much rather join the “Vinnie Colaiuta During His Second Semester In The (’80) Band Association”…

By: SOFA - Philostopher/Chef

SOFA - Philostopher/Chef — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:43:52 +0000

I kinda think that FZ got to realize a lot of the music in his head in stages - jazz, vocal, hard rock, orchestral, al at certain times, with certain musicians…
He had an affection for multi-part harmonic vocals (as do I); I think this particular band let him realize some of the vocal textures he had running thru his head.
Okay, maybe this wasn’t known as a particularly ‘creative’ time afa his melodic construction was concerned and I am not a big fan of the digital mid-tone heavy background either, but this band could tear it up vocally and that’s what endears them to me.
Oh Sharl? You can sign me up for the Ch.W.L.F. I’d rather not be an officer - recording secretary maybe…

By: Dr Sharleena

Dr Sharleena — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:50:45 +0000

Jim: wanna join the Chad Wackerman Liberation Front (Ch.W.L.F.)? We badly need members…

By: jim

jim — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:40:04 +0000

Don’t snipe Sharleena! That verily IS madass keen drumming, even though I too have a bit of personal Blecch as to the envelope/timbre of said drums themselves. Finally I am aglow in the radiance of “Ride My Face To Chicago” & “Chana In De Bushwop” … yum!

By: Mungo Bill

Mungo Bill — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:06:29 +0000

Just discovered this page. Thank you. Awesome tunes, even with the synthetic sounds. Looking forward to the next one.

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:27:14 +0000

It would be even more interesting to hear the most-botched FZ guitar solo.

A real dog, off the top of my head — “Truck Driver Divorce” solo from Sept 1, 1984.

By: timmo

timmo — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:32:23 +0000

there’s some tasty solos in this show, whoever said fz lost it in 84 is talking shite!

notice all the ‘owner of a lonely heart’ quotes in most solos too!

also, there’s that strange ‘fz 84 descending /recurring riff’ ..as i just called it.., in a couple of the solos, know what i mean? pops up all over the 84 performances (stage series, dhbim dvd.. )

By: Balint

Balint — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:28:30 +0000

34 responses?…!!!!! Wowww!!!! Anyway, I tend to like this show too. I imagined to experience this version of Bamboozled - must have been great (great surpise). Evil Prince is Nr. 1, - anyway, this wwas fun.

By: BLOOOR

BLOOOR — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:21:12 +0000

hey, for you Aussies out there… relating to that nme news
that documentary is gonna be on SBS this Saturday!

By: Bob Again

Bob Again — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:22:04 +0000

32 posts and I’m not ONE of them? Sorry, I’ve been a whey…

By: me

me — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:13:26 +0000

hey guys read this
http://www.nme.com/news/frank-zappa/27703

By: jonnybutter

jonnybutter — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:43:20 +0000

synthetic toms. yamaha dx-7’s.

Exactly. It is a very cheesy, mid-rangey sound - better than a Farfisa, but along the same line. And I personally can get tired of the Tommy Mars sound (don’t shoot me, please). Vocals sound good, though, as does Frank’s guitar.

By: mcnastie

mcnastie — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:35:50 +0000

synthetic toms. yamaha dx-7’s.
the devil is in the details.

By: metafunj

metafunj — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:22:19 +0000

Where’s Tommy and Eddy when you need them?

By: Birdman!

Birdman! — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:35:37 +0000

Not only is there such a thing as a bad FZ show - from the fact that there is, we must logically conclude that there is a worst FZ show of all time. And, without knowing what that show is, I’d almost certainly rather listen to it than anything by Blink 182, Fallout Boy… the list of nameless, faceless, homogenous bands goes on. But now I’m curious - is there one show that stands out among afficianadi as unusually rancid and limp? It would be even more interesting to hear the most-botched FZ guitar solo. Listening to Charlie Parker’s notorious way-too-wasted sessions (Dial - “Lover Man” and “Gypsy”), once he get’s started, he doesn’t sound worst than a lot of other people sound all the time

By: urbangraffito

urbangraffito — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:34:13 +0000

Is there really such a thing as a bad Zappa concert? Or have we all become so spoiled over the years that what might be considered an excellent show one day is just merely passable another day? Even on a bad day, Zappa and the various Mothers can show groups today a thing or two or three…

By: Magic Fingers

Magic Fingers — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:36:41 +0000

If memory serves me, this actually is a pretty good ‘84 show. Plenty of good FZ solos, I think I am right in saying? Still, can’t hang around, have some Sharl-shooting to do……….

By: mcnastie

mcnastie — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:32:15 +0000

synthetic toms.

yamaha dx-7’s.

if it were anyone else, i’d call those ‘cocaine decisions’.

as always, the devil is in the details…