Comments on: The Perfect Album

By: bernard

bernard — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:51:37 +0000

Yes, I fully agree : Return Of The Son Of Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar is 200 % perfect. Sounds like J S Bach :

- with even more musical imagination
- electric.

Kunst der Fugue revisited.

By: SOFA

SOFA — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:27:35 +0000

My interest in the voracity of this “list” ended here:

“David Bowie — The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust …
David Bowie — The Spiders from Mars …”

These were listed back to back in the “3 votes” section…
This was only the first instance of a release garnering more than one slot on the list (there were at least 3 mentions of Johnny Cash ‘Live at Folsum Prison’ and - albeit the album is a classic, and does fit the criteria set - I wasn’t trying to count repeats when I noticed it) and I feel that went a lot towards negating the entire effect.
A pity too, because a comprehensive list would have been most entertaining…
And OSFA most certainly deserves to be there.

By: Montana Wildhack

Montana Wildhack — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 00:18:00 +0000

We can for this purpose dismiss all the FZ/moi albums with “talking” of any length, as these holds no interest outside of Zappapology. So vast swathes of “Lumpy Gravy” and “Freak Out” rule them out, as does -especially- the reissued Uncle Meat! Also Trout has the 2 Hair Pies, it pains me to say it but it is thus disqualified. Also WOIIFTM with it’s repeated tracks and what uninitiates call “the long one at the end”.
PS I am trying to find th FZ “play everything reggae” gig, does this exist or is it an urbane myth?

By: bernard

bernard — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:52:02 +0000

The perfect album is , well according to my listening, One Size fits all.

By the way did you notice that most of the albums mentioned are min. 10 years old?

By: SOFA

SOFA — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:43:40 +0000

Freak Out! was listed, btw…

By: xorg

xorg — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:45:45 +0000

Lumpy Gravy, We’re Only In it For The Money, Hot Rats and Grand Wazoo are unskippable. Not that I often skip tracks on FZ albums as even the stupid tracks are pretty good. It’s all relative! Mind you, there are some albums I never play such as Joe’s Domage, Thingfish and Playground Psychotics. In my view these albums are way below FZ’s usual standard.

By: Barry's Imaginary Publisher

Barry's Imaginary Publisher — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:48:29 +0000

Yeah it depends on the criterium really. Homogenousity (hope that’s a word) isn’t one for me. You can have radically different tracks next to one another — R&E is partly an example of this — and still maintain a general ambiance that for some reason ties it all together. With R&E I never ever skip a track. For me at least they just form one big undevidable whole — not in the least bit because of the fact that it is live (that’s Zappa’s definition of “live” I should add ).

By: rfrong

rfrong — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:25:26 +0000

Without question HOT RATS belongs on the list. It is FZ’s most coherent album to date…then again…his INcoherence is what attracts a lot of us to his music. My thing is that after over 27 years of FZ Addiction, there are very few Official albums that I can listen to without being at least tempted to hit that skip button at least once. Not because I don’t like a particular song, but because I am tired of it…and like Balint suggested…it’s usually those stupid songs. They are fun…but…

Therefore…I would list (in no particular order): Grand Wazoo, Hot Rats, Lumpy Gravy and the Shut Up & Play Yer Guitar box…particularly Return Of The Son Of Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar.

Joe’s Garage Pt. 1 is NEARLY perfect.

By: Bálint

Bálint — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:22:51 +0000

I think the more homogenous albums can get the “perfect” status. On Roxy one might wonder what that “Old Jazzman’s Church” thing is all about, on One Size Fits All the stupidity of Pojama People might bring some surprise, maybe, but other albums, like Hot Rats bring the same level (or what).