Unresolved issues: the anonymous visitor...

[emdebe]

Writing a collaborative book on FZ is, in my opinion, close to impossible. It's my experience that each and every FZ fan has his/her own reason(s) for appreciating the man and the music, and more often than not, they differ greatly.

 

Barry @ the Wiki (http://wiki.killuglyradio.com/index.php/Talk:Album_Grouping): Ideally, for an anonymous visitor, I would like there to be as little as possible "personality" present in (or in the way of) the articles.

You're forgetting that any "visitor" is a potential "editor"... obfuscating the links like that may be confusing for anyone having to edit a page without knowing what a "piped link" is.

So we should leave all wiki code littering the pages so that any future visitor/editor could pick them up without having to go and find out for themselves?

emdebe @ the Wiki (http://wiki.killuglyradio.com/index.php/Talk:Album_Grouping): I'm not into this for the "anonymous visitor"... I'm into this for the amusement of people who already enjoy Zappa music - it is NOT for intellectuals or other dead people... (as you may notice, these are not at all my words...)

I repeat: I'm not into this for the "anonymous visitor"... I'm into this for the amusement of people who already enjoy Zappa music...

[Barry]

I'm into this for the amusement of people who already enjoy Zappa music...

I have no problem with that but don't make it a policy. I admit, my earlier comment about "as little as possible personality in the articles" was over the top, ill-conceived, you're right about that. On the other side of the spectrum though, we could end up with
- the kind of proze that is full of "inside jokes/remarks" (meaning, you need to already know a fair deal of FZ) - this would probably turn off curious-but-not-yet-FZ-fans
- obscure "but they're funny!" article-titles which only make it harder to find anything.
- articles that are overflowing with personal opinion/bias. again, the wiki is not the place for that.

I think what we're looking for here is a middleground...

[Chris]

Both, I would think. You don't have a check-box for that.

[emdebe]

There are 364 members in the Kur Forum and 31 registered users in the Wiki Jawaka... and what we have here is a whopping 4 (four!) votes...

As I said before: where are all the other Freaks & Motherf*#@%! when you need them?

[Chris]

Both, Emdebe. I think we've resolved this.

[emdebe]

Both, Emdebe. I think we've resolved this.

Hardly...

But hey, I don't want to spoil your party!

[Chris]

You've used the word "ultimate" in conjunction with this project. This would mean there's information for both newcomers and old listeners. Others have made similar comments.

I think you've gotten bored and you're just looking for complications.  

[emdebe]

When I look at the number of people who actually voted on this (and Barry probably voted 3 times  ), I must conclude that we’re not in this for the anonymous visitor, we’re not in this for the FZ fan, … apparently we’re only in for ourselves…

[Barry]

Ever wonder why out of the 300+ KUR forum members, only 4 decided to vote emdebe?
My guess is that it's because you're pushing this thing to realms of meta-talk that are way beyond the fringe of a Zappa wiki. And in doing so, I might add, I think we're losing potential contributors. You scare the hell out of anyone wanting to contribute with the way you assert that every single word/syllable needs a democratically elected commity to vote on said single word/syllable.

By the way: I voted once.