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1  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: Recent wiki vandalism on: October 05, 2007, 10:13:53 AM
Congratulations! You have won your MediaWiki Master badge as well as our gratitude.   Smiley
I second that emotion  Smiley...
Tip to the hat for technical wizardry...
2  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: Anatomy of a DISCOGRAPHY on: October 02, 2007, 08:24:37 AM
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So: I think skeleton pages should be removed, filled with information, or whatever - this way it is just no good.
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I've been talking about it before, but nothing changed.
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We have gone through this many times before... (as an example, see http://www.killuglyradio.com/forum/index.php?topic=616.0). If many more people would contribute to the Wiki, maybe things would change (more quickly)... Those who contribute, do whatever they can to make something of it, although it's not always to the liking of others... The Wiki contains some good, some bad, and some ugly things; the bad and ugly ones are mainly due to the lack of experience we had when we started with the Wiki: eversince we gained interesting insights on how things should look like, but now we don't always have the time to make changes... And I think we're to far down the road, to start all over again... In an ideal world, where all of us could contribute to the Wiki on a fulltime basis (without having to work for a decent living), things might have been different (maybe better).
3  Frank Zappa / Strictly Critique / Re: Credit Card phishing? on: May 15, 2007, 11:37:15 AM
... so I'm not sure what to do.

Go for G&S Music in the UK - http://www.gandsmusic.com/.
4  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: Anatomy of a DISCOGRAPHY on: May 15, 2007, 11:33:00 AM
If at all possible I would by far prefer refining the existing structure at the current wiki...

I think everything is possible... if everybody is ready, willing and able to go through some changes.

For one: maybe it would be better to limit the section "Records On Which This Song Has Appeared" to FZ stuff - singles, original albums, compilations & side projects. Thus no more tributes, covers, or bootlegs: these can live happily ever after in the related categories, without cluttering the FZ pages.

And speaking of cluttering: we need a more elegant way to present the lyrics, especially when there are 2, 3 or more versions of a song. I already experimented with putting them on separate pages, but I'm not sure that this is the best way to go.

Let the good ideas flow...
5  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: Anatomy of a DISCOGRAPHY on: May 13, 2007, 07:34:32 AM
Barry, can you run multiple Wikis from the same installation? If it is technically feasible (I guess so), would you have the kindness to do so? Don’t know what the consequences would be though: space issues, memory issues, any kind administrative issues, ... things that might give you a conehead... If that is too complicated, maybe custom namespaces could do the trick? Again: don’t know what the consequences would be.
6  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: Browser wars on: May 13, 2007, 07:30:04 AM
Anybody any ideas to fix these little inconveniences?
7  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: A Personal Wiki on: May 08, 2007, 12:10:39 PM
... including the same syntax we use at our Wiki, of course...

Maybe I should go for www.wikia.com...

They even have a Zappa thingy: http://music.wikia.com/wiki/Zappa

When you check out the “Freak Out!” page, it says “Further Reading: Zappa Wiki Jawaka”...

Yes folks, we’re famous!
8  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: A Personal Wiki on: May 08, 2007, 11:59:25 AM
I want everything for nothing...  Wink

... including the same syntax we use at our Wiki, of course...
9  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Browser wars on: May 08, 2007, 11:37:25 AM
When I use Explorer 7 (yes, I have a Vista machine) while editing a Wiki page, the small icons representing editing aids (B, I, Url, etc.) just disappear...

When I use Firefox 2 for browsing the Wiki, I get weird messages like “this is an application / octet-stream... what do you want to do?”...

What a wonderful world...

Am I only 3000 EUR away from a Mac?
10  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: A Personal Wiki on: May 08, 2007, 11:27:23 AM
Yes an Apple is always the answer  Smiley  The next version of the Mac Server OS (Leopard) will have Wiki stuff built in.

An Apple a day, keeps the doctor away?  Smiley
Why would I want an Apple server?
11  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: A Personal Wiki on: May 08, 2007, 11:24:19 AM
Google is your friend.

Google is not exactly my friend. OK, it gives me a zillion pages to choose from, but it doesn't say me anything I want to hear: a good, objective opinion about what site to go for. I don't want ads, I don't want slow performance, I don't want entering the site to be like playing Russian Roulette, ... you get the idea: I want everything for nothing...  Wink

So, where are all these humans, who surely must have an opinion?
12  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: A Personal Wiki on: May 06, 2007, 03:20:46 AM
Which free (as in “no money”) Wiki hosting service would you (as in “all you readers out here”) choose, if you (etc.) decided you (etc.) needed a free (etc.) Wiki hosting service for some experimental noodling (whatever that might be)?
13  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: Anatomy of a DISCOGRAPHY on: April 25, 2007, 10:11:50 AM
I can see what you mean, but I don't see how we can transform the lot we have...
There is too many notes already...
14  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: Anatomy of a DISCOGRAPHY on: April 18, 2007, 11:59:46 AM
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 Are bootleg records particularly relevant in the mp3 age?
 Should tribute bands be included in an FZ discography?
 All of which merely add to the clutter and confusion imho.
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This tiny little sucker (I mean the discussion topic, not Duncan  Grin) resurfaced again at the Wiki.

Once I had the following suggestion:

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My suggestions are:

1) Learn as much as possible from the mistakes made the last five months.
2) ZIP the whole lot, make it available as a download, and start with a clean sheet at wiki.killuglyradio.com.
3) Additionally, create a wiki.boots.killuglyradio.com.
4) Also create a wiki.tributes.killuglyradio.com.
5) Start working in a non-wiki fashion: instead of everybody running in every direction (like chickens without a head), implement some form of “project management”.
6) Make love, not war.

OK, forget about 1, 2, and 5.
Do we need to reconsider 3 and 4?




15  Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / Re: Wonderful Wino - The Lost Episodes Version on: January 09, 2007, 02:16:47 PM
Doing that surfing thing and arrived at the They Might Be Giants Wiki.
They have a Chronology scheme .  Which allows for  variations of the same title (of which we have many!).
Would something like this help ease the quagmire that is our discography?

Like that?
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