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Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / re: wiki jawaka chat
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on: March 18, 2005, 08:55:29 PM
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I'm sure "Waka/Jawaka" is copyrighted... but is "Wiki Jawaka"? it don't matter...here's a sampling of what to consider when it comes to © ® infringement, it probably falls into the bunch of other stuff category
re: another non-profit fz-related project ...just a cursory glance suggests that it incorporates at a minimum some of what are known as common law trademarks and certain copyrighted materials.
Then there is just the most basic matter of trading on FZ's name (yes), image (yes), likeness (possibly not), good will that he created in his lifetime (yes) and a bunch of other stuff...
the name is great, hate to see the project get so big & popular that it starts drawing some unwanted attention
before abandoning the name, nothing to loose by emailing gail@zappa.com & ask what she thinks...it's non-profit, informative, and maybe if gail knows she can participate, she might throw in a few undisclosed/unpublished factoids |
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Frank Zappa / Zappa Wiki Jawaka / re wiki jawaka chat
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on: March 17, 2005, 06:07:42 PM
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pretty sure the chat room at z.com is public
the content looks great so far, looks like it's gonna get pretty big....i'd re-consider the jawaka part of the name or be prepared for a cease & desist |
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Frank Zappa / Strictly Critique / re: how to manage a boot collection
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on: March 03, 2005, 09:17:35 PM
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no, please don't postpone it just to put a few bells & whistles on it, they can wait for v1.02.... 
the text files i use only have my own collection on it, it's just a quick way to find a show or track without shuffling thru all my cdr's
each cdr has a label with all the tracks on it, the cdr's are number & stored on the shelf in consecutive order, so i search the first index to see if i have the show, then i can find which cd it's on
too many gigs to store on my machine; the cdr's get burned as soon as i get 700 megs, so they're in essentially random order
i use fzshows to compile a z-notes .txt file similar to the zappateers standard info file, with a tape review added (if it exists) and the original file names with file size
i like the idea of starting with the complete fzshows list and somehow denoting which ones you have & which ones you still need, including missing or partial tracks
a colleague uses an excel file to manage his boots in a sortable format, including year, city, cd number, size of show, number of tracks per show, show duration and comments; limited to shows rather than individual tracks....he also his entire collection on his machine, giving each show it's own folder so he can generate a .txt file that lists every track, date created, file size etc; searchable but not sortable
the offline zappabase [download from zappateers] also has a way to manage your boots, but it requires some database savvy & i haven't been compelled to find the time to figure it out yet |
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Frank Zappa / Strictly Critique / re: how to manage a boot collection
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on: March 01, 2005, 10:59:44 PM
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...Would this kind of thing interest any of you?
If so, what kind of other features would you expect from such an application? that would be cool, i'd like to try it...- if we have an incomplete show, any way to highlight missing tracks either in another color/font or put them at the bottom of the list for that show
- anyway to import a filelist rather than having to add them one at a time...i use a cd label program that extracts file info & creates a tracklist
- include file extensions: .mp3 .wav .flac etc...
- include track duration & file size
- link to tape reviews from fzshows & buzby's '88 tour reviews
- linked to zappabase by song
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Frank Zappa / Strictly Critique / re: how to manage a boot collection
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on: February 27, 2005, 02:06:33 PM
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two .txt files... one has each show chronologically; i can quickly check if i have it or not:
| 1962 | ..... | rare Beefheart & vintage Zappa
| | 1963 | may-19 |
mount st mary's
| | 1963 | sep-19 | Dot demos | | 1966 | jun-25 | san francisco, fillmore w | | 1966 | ..... | Absolutely Free demos | | 1967 | may-30 | garrick | | 1967 | jun-20 | nyc | | 1967 | sep-30 | stockholm | | 1967 | oct-01 | copenhagen | | 1967 | oct-02 | lund | | 1967 | oct -09 | Hoepla dutch tv | | 1967 | dec -03 | ann arbor | | 1968 | apr-10 | detroit | | 1968 | apr-20 | nyc | | 1968 | may-03 | denver |
etc.etc.
2nd .txt file has each cdr with each track on it:
boot 1
1969 feb 23 rockpile E01 Intro~Bacon Fat
1969 feb 23 rockpile E02 Lonely Lonely Nights
1969 feb 23 rockpile E03 Corrido Rock
1969 feb 23 rockpile E04 Pachuko Hop
1969 feb 23 rockpile E05 Behind The Sun
1969 feb 23 rockpile E06 The String Quartet
1969 feb 23 rockpile E07 The String Quartet 2
1969 feb 23 rockpile E08 Charles Ives
1969 feb 23 rockpile E09 WPLJ
1969 feb 23 rockpile E10 In The Sky
1970 Weasels Ripped my Flesh - radio promo #1
1970 Weasels Ripped my Flesh - radio promo #2
1970 Weasels Ripped my Flesh - radio promo #3
1970 Weasels Ripped my Flesh - radio promo #4
..... etc. etc.
boot 2
1971 200 motels live 16 Divan
1971 200 motels live 17 Eddie Are You Kidding
1971 200 motels live 18 What Will This Morning
1971 200 motels live 20 Daddy Daddy Daddy
1971 200 motels live 22 Magic Fingers
1971 200 motels live 23 What Will This Evening
1971 200 motels live 24 King Kong
1971 200 motels live 25 Junier Mintz Boogie
1971 200 motels live 26 200 Motels Finale
1973 aug 30 bologna 01 Dupree's Paradise
1973 aug 30 bologna 02 Cosmik Debris
d1 04 Dog Breath (dog meat) ... etc etc
... etc etc
boot xx
1968 oct 26 paris 01 Improvisation
1968 oct 26 paris 02 King Kong
1968 oct 26 paris 03 Plastic People
1968 oct 26 paris 04 Hungry Freaks Daddy
1968 oct 26 paris 05 Mr Green Genes
1968 oct 26 paris 06 The String Quartet
1969 may 24 rockpile E01 Interlude
1969 may 24 rockpile E02 Boogie in G
1969 may 24 rockpile E03 My Music chucha
1969 may 24 rockpile E04 Uncle Meat drum duet
...... etc etc
makes it easy to find out if i have the show, or find out which cdr the show is on
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Frank Zappa / Strictly Critique / re: mm
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on: February 21, 2005, 08:57:56 AM
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hey slime....
something I couldn't read...
what is between strictly genteel and the beltway bandits? take yer clothes off when you dance-lost epis.
Also, maybe put the 3 rdnzls together in the same bracket?... same with the clevelands? ... done
Maybe add When Yuppies Go to Hell?... there's 192 now, i'd have to delete one unless i turn one of the 3's into a 4 |
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Frank Zappa / Strictly Critique / re: official site: info might not be knowledge, but it would certainly help
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on: February 19, 2005, 06:27:42 PM
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I can't access the zappa.com forum (or any of the site for that matter), for a whole day now, is this the same for everyone? 
yea, down for over a day; however barfko swill is up, can't let those e-cash registers shut down down...
[speculation] zappa.com is about to offer the complete fz catalog re-issued in some non-ryko--marginally-different-than-before format, maybe some new stuff[/speculation] |
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The White Zone / The Phoebe Snow Chill Out Room / re: friday is 'use the zappa.com forum day'
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on: December 12, 2004, 10:00:51 PM
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that thread was started by yer old buddy isaac in the pre-banned days...he was actually tryin to drum up support for the kur forums for whatever reason, maybe he thought more action was required, whatever
post #2 was mine; was browsing kur & came across barry's alt.fan.fz story - fascinating stuff - pre-dates me and i've always wondered about the origins of the old fz mythology...when isaac deleted the initial post, the thread is out of context; i've gone back & edited what's now the 1st post with a bit of an explanation
someone quoted the original isaac post before it was deleted:
on 05/22/03 at 9:30pm, Thing-Fish2003 wrote, then deleted:There is a serious crisis on the Kill Ugly Radio Forum. There is hardly anybody doing any posts on that forum. So, For an entire day, i encorage Zappa-Forum users to participate in posts on the Kill Ugly Radio Forum ( http://www.killuglyradio.com/discuss/index.php). If you haven't got a Killy Ugly Radio Forum membership, sign up, participate in discussions that are allready there, and post your own posts. Do It Every Friday. You'll Love It. Thing-Fish2003 (I Used T'Be Thing-Fish24, Y'know) This is my.....
chris f suicide chumped a couple times over there, one before my time, one after...couldn't get along with some of the more opinionated members & bailed
the chris federico memorial bbq and epitaph
re: 75-page threads... the 1st 74 pages are usually irrelevant, so no need to dredge thru the primordial ancient slime, i mean who cares what 'the secret word for tonight is....' 1300 posts ago, or what someone's favorite guitar solo was; these threads go along way towards breaking the ice for newbs who may be intimidated otherwise... & all those deathless association threads seem have died & nobody's flogging that horsie these days
i learn new shit about fz every week & i wasn't any entry-level fz freak when i started a year & a half ago
some good people, also some assholes, gail shows up now & again, vaultmeister joe drop's in & it's essentially self-moderating
alot of the shit that goes on is juvenille & pointless, but hey, whatever you can do to have a good time let's get on with it, it's the world's 2nd finest optional entertainment
plus, they got the pumpkins 
btw, whatever happened to debK ¿ |
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