23 thoughts on “Salad Party 93”

  1. Very strange. Somehow like your average family come-together video, where the event is filmed for hours but nothing happens.

    In this case everybody actually seems to WAIT for something to happen – but nothing of significance happens.

    Th.

  2. In the first shot above the person on the left looks like he is SMOKIN’ on something larger 😉

    Th.

  3. [quote comment=”6809″]Very strange. Somehow like your average family come-together video, where the event is filmed for hours but nothing happens.

    In this case everybody actually seems to WAIT for something to happen – but nothing of significance happens.

    Th.[/quote]

    The only thing not happening is your thin brain.
    The Audio MIX was less than optimal especially considering
    the large gathering put together in a short period of time.

    The list of Who’s Who’s of Zappa friends and how they all came
    together and celebrated music where they brought together so many different musical happenings all at once is absolutely amazing.

    Just look at how each and every person is in amazement.
    Take a deep look at who each person is and how they are amazed by what is happenening.

    Seriously Thinman you look like a kid who watches too many Barney & Friends cartoons. First time his parent take him to the Vatican in the middle of the Sistine chapel he says “what’s this dad ? Lets go back to the smelly hotel room with no air conditioning and watch Barney in Italian.

    I vote for Thinman toget the shithead of the year award.

  4. You make a good point GOTW, but then again, when I read this:
    [quote comment=”6815″]The only thing not happening is your thin brain. [snip] I vote for Thinman toget the shithead of the year award.[/quote]
    … I wonder why whenever you state a point of view, it has to involve insulting someone. By the way: “toget” is a non-existent verb.

  5. Yep, amazing stuff ! Thank you 🙂

    This is just very sad that so many has been recorded and so few has been made available to the public 🙁

  6. [quote post=”2305″]You make a good point GOTW, but then again, when I read this:

    A quote from Grafitti On The Wall:

    The only thing not happening is your thin brain. [snip] I vote for Thinman toget the shithead of the year award.

    … I wonder why whenever you state a point of view, it has to involve insulting someone. By the way: “toget” is a non-existent verb.[/quote]
    He believes there’s only a glossy side to the medal. He hates people who sometimes point to the also existing probably not so glossy other side.

  7. [quote comment=”6816″]You make a good point GOTW, but then again, when I read this:
    [quote comment=”6815″]The only thing not happening is your thin brain. [snip] I vote for Thinman toget the shithead of the year award.[/quote]
    … I wonder why whenever you state a point of view, it has to involve insulting someone. By the way: “toget” is a non-existent verb.[/quote]

    It’s all a matter of perspective. In my opinion Thinman was insulting not only to every person in that room but any Zappa fan with a half of a brain cell left.

    Come on now let’s get serious.

    We are talking about Frank Zappa. The end was near. He had been having these parties over his house and this was The Big One.
    I don’t think anyone who was there was telling themselves, hey let’s pause for we are part of Frank Zappa’s wildest composition.
    They knew very well what they were celebrating and one thing that was obvious is they were celebrating being alive with Frank Zappa and all he brought into their lives.

    FZ compositional masterpiece…. It’s being created right now… may or may bot have entered their mind. Sure it entered heir minds but not on a Olympic Song Rating level. It was just another important phase of THE BIG NOTE.

    Fortunately Frank had enough energy to be apart of that party.
    The video tape captures a certain perspective of that event that
    we as fans should feel extremely fortunate to witness.

    The gathering of the people, the music is the best being created on the spot.

    The Chineese say a picture tells a thousad words well these videos
    tell millions of words wher each and every individuals emotions are worn on their lapel.

    And that TOGET TYPO.
    Unfortunately this form does not allow editing.

  8. I JUST NOW found this on Vimeo and was rushing over to share it.
    Damn you Barry’s Imaginary Publisher!!!

  9. I happen to own “20 Horses in My Herd” by Huun-Huur-Tu. Hilarious stuff, a definite must-listen for any true FZ nerd out there.

  10. @Trendmonger: You sometimes confuse things a little bit. I was commenting the VIDEOS (because of their aesthetics – which amused me), not the real event.

    Th.

  11. I find it so depressing to read Trendmongers shite here too. Such a beautiful video to watch (yeah, Thinmans right it looks like a badly shot wedding video..so what Mr Graffitti..)and any chat about it is ruined by that sanctimonious fool.

  12. Fascinating stuff (though kinda hard to watch at times). If FZ made Dance Me This from these sessions, I’d sure like to hear it! (And I can’t dance!)

  13. [quote comment=”6820″]
    FZ compositional masterpiece…. It’s being created right now… [/quote]
    I don’t think it was the above at all… I think the basic melody was a traditional Celtic piece to which the Tuvan’s related. Interesting juxtiposition – but not a masterpiece and nothing near an FZ composition.
    “Hey, some friends came over to jam – let’s record it” is more in line with what occurred.

  14. [quote comment=”6836″][quote comment=”6820″]
    FZ compositional masterpiece…. It’s being created right now… [/quote]
    I don’t think it was the above at all… I think the basic melody was a traditional Celtic piece to which the Tuvan’s related. Interesting juxtiposition – but not a masterpiece and nothing near an FZ composition.
    “Hey, some friends came over to jam – let’s record it” is more in line with what occurred.[/quote]

    You are missing the point.

    I don’t think everyone in attendance literally paused and said this is going to be FZ greatest composition. Plain and simple it was happening in the moment and everyone was amazed. They knew this was FZ at work eve though it appeared FZ was very laid back
    with an energy level a bit less we are accustoed to when his health
    was not an issue.

    It’s beyond some little Celtic Folk music and Tuvan singers doing there thing. This is how FZ brought it all together. Everyone in that room was totally amazed at what was going on and they very well knew FZ was the master of ceremonies putting it all together
    even if some arrangement suggestions were coming from Paddy Moloney and FZ had not formally written every rhythm note Bozzio was playing.

    As a previous poster suggested some of the recordings may very well have been used for parts of the Dance Me This record.
    Maybe it takes an some people to hear that record to understand in part how FZ worked.

  15. “Amazed” is a very strong word and reflects your opinion (and fanboy-stance) more than their actual emotions/mental states at the time.

    Looks to me that they were all having fun. Sometimes fun is just fun.

  16. Nicely said, Matt – and that’s the point I was making…
    But, GotW takes a valid position also – if one accepts FZ’s definition of composer as “one who arranges things into another thing by stating when that thing begins and ends”. No one could assert that Frank was not a master of that craft.
    But to me, an FZ composition has a melodic pattern that HE concocted. And I’m sorry, but there was too much Celtic Trad happening in the piece. Sure you could argue that the juxtaposition of a Celtic melody over a Tuvan chant could become an entirely different melody and – hance – a new composition. Is that what occurred?
    I didn’t see it. It was a jam session that FZ recorded.
    Now, if he used chunks of that session to create a some masterpiece in Dance Me This – I cannot say.
    [quote comment=”6844″]even if some arrangement suggestions were coming from Paddy Moloney and FZ had not formally written every rhythm note Bozzio was playing.[/quote]
    Where was Bozzio???

  17. [quote comment=”6851″]Where was Bozzio???[/quote]
    Guy with long (blonde) hair (Sex&Religion era look). Playing hand drums.

  18. Best consumed by playing both parts of the video at the same time! This is what I would call a true BIG ONE!

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