Hello and welcome to another episode of “thank god for those unofficial fan blogs we sent cease & desist letters to, because otherwise us ZFT pumpkins would never get our new releases out in the public proper - {chuckle}”:
One Shot Deal @ zappa.com
One Shot Deal @ Barfko Swill
One Shot Deal ZFT Newsletter Announcement
Update 14/06: Now with tracklist! Amazing.
- Bathtub Man (5:43)
- Space Boogers (1:24)
- Hermitage (2:00)
- Trudgin’ Across the Tundra (4:01)
- Occam’s Razor (9:11)
- Heidelberg *1987 (4:46)
- The Illinois Enema Bandit (9:27)
- Australian Yellow Snow (12:26)
- Rollo (2:57)
June 13th, 2008 at 8:25 pm » Quote
OK, I give in and I realise I’m being really stupid but I find zappa.com well nigh impossible to navigate around. How on earth do I actually find out the track listing for this damn thing?
June 13th, 2008 at 8:34 pm » Quote
You won’t. The secret: this time the family released an ALBUM-COVER!! Wow!!!!
June 13th, 2008 at 9:13 pm » Quote
Rumor has it, this be “The 1973 “Un-Concert”“. Wait and see — I’ve ordered mine, along with the TTNS-dvd. Oh boy, some early TTNS buyers are going to be pretty pissed off…
June 13th, 2008 at 9:23 pm » Quote
That’ll be me then, the damn ship has just headed back west after dropping that DVD off. I think I’ll pass this time.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:08 pm » Quote
Me, too! The TTNS DVD just arrived today. Sure is nice to know what the One Shot Deal CD packaging is made of, but it would be nicer to know what’s actually on it!! I’ll wait til I know more…
June 13th, 2008 at 10:41 pm » Quote
I’m sorry - but whoever updates zappa.com should be prevented from touching a web page again for the rest of their existence.
Here’s the extent of the details provided for this newly announced release:
“All Titles Produced by FZ
Just when you thought it was safe
to go back in the water . . .
Makes its own sauce!
Shocking summer surprise for no reason at all!”
I’m sorry, but this nonsense and a 15 second clip to open up the website are not enough for me to send the internet gestapo at ZFT another $16. I’ll download it when it leaks.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:07 am » Quote
I’m going to see Dweez tonight so I’ll see if I can divine WTF this release is. But, no, I won’t be buying it. I expect it to cost around $20-22 at the gig, and if I end up buying it it’ll be used for half that or less!
I like ZPZ but no money of mine goes to the trust anymore. That ship has sailed and the witch can drown or just cease and desist.
(Not wishing anyone harm here, just expressing myself, Mr. Lawyers).
June 14th, 2008 at 1:52 am » Quote
I just don’t get it. How can they have lived with the man, followed the process in which he produced each of the many albums in his vast catalogue, then produce such lousy album covers posthumously? I mean, are they appealing to the lowest common denominator here: people with no artistic appreciation whatsoever? I only hope for your sake, Barry, that what’s on the CD is better than what’s on the cover. Ugly, man, ugly.
June 14th, 2008 at 2:39 am » Quote
1. Bathtub Man (5:43)
2. Space Boogers (1:24)
3. Hermitage (2:00)
4. Trudgin’ Across the Tundra (4:01)
5. Occam’s Razor (9:11)
6. Heidelberg *1987 (4:46)
7. The Illinois Enema Bandit (9:27)
8. Australian Yellow Snow (12:26)
9. Rollo (2:57)
June 14th, 2008 at 3:08 am » Quote
A quote from urbangraffito:
Couldn’t agree more, it’s like they’re deaf, dumb and devoid of any concern with the sensibilities of the fans. Mrs Z has gone to far - releasing stuff nobody asked for, hell without a track list!! Her weird behaviour againt the true fans fans has actually given me a sour taste in the mouth. She thinks that great man’s heritage was the search of the almighty $$$. I for one will await the torrent of OSD, that is if I can stand listening to FZ at all anymore…. It feels that I give Mrs a silent consent by listening to any FZ.
Let me humbly remind you of this link. It’s very very important that we all stand united and let Mrs Z know that we won’t stand for it any longer:
http://www.petitiononline.com/ZFT/petition-sign.html
The pen is a mighy sword. I’d give anything to watch her face when she sees that she’s heading against a thick wall of thousands of disappointment - or even angry - fans.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:14 am » Quote
Testing. Why doesn’t my post show?
June 14th, 2008 at 3:38 am » Quote
A quote from urbangraffito:
What I like about that cover is that little stickon registration mark. I did a million seps back in the olden days and spent hours lining up those stupid marks:…squint…hold breath…stick!…aggh it’s crooked, do it again… …hold breath… repeat. This is what album covers/ magazines/posters used to look like as they went to production- all glued and taped and whited out- but they came out spiffy!
June 14th, 2008 at 3:53 am » Quote
Urban: Couldn’t agree more, it’s like they’re deaf, dumb and devoid of any concern with the sensibilities of the fans. Mrs Z has gone to far - releasing stuff nobody asked for, hell without a track list!! Her weird behaviour againt the true fans fans has actually given me a sour taste in the mouth. She thinks that great man’s heritage was the search of the almighty $$$. I for one will await the torrent of OSD, that is if I can stand listening to FZ at all anymore…. It feels that I give Mrs a silent consent by listening to any FZ.
June 14th, 2008 at 6:17 am » Quote
I think I wrote toomany words - here’s the rest of my post:
Let me humbly remind you of this link. It’s very very important that we all stand united and let Mrs Z know that we won’t stand for it any longer:
http://www.petitiononline.com/ZFT/petition-sign.html
The pen is a mighy sword. I’d give anything to watch her face when she sees that she’s heading against a thick wall of thousands of fans up in arms.
June 14th, 2008 at 12:31 pm » Quote
Interesting: ordered it yesterday, got a “shipped” notification from musictoday this morning! This can mean two things: either they saw my name, know I’m KUR’s Head Honcho and didn’t want any bad publicity — or: musictoday’s not exactly “swamped” with orders right now. Which one, you think?
June 14th, 2008 at 12:54 pm » Quote
Do not make the mistake to believe that you’re important, Barry. The C&D letter was the result of a lawyer’s machine.
We care about music, don’t we?
On this subject ( the new release):
- I won’t buy it. I’m not a FZ fan, I’m nobody’s fan . I’m not even a fan of myself. However FZ happens to be a favorite of mine , amongst other composers / musicians.
- Musically & aiming at later & continuing respect for the man, what’s needed? (1) the release of FZ plays Varèse; (2) focussing on the CD ” Strictly commercial”, ie bringing that music again to wider audiences, (3) new records withe old stuff; for instance ” FZ , the composer” , “FZ , the performer”, just like Columbia Jazz did it - with big success- for Thelonius Monk. Why not re - release ” Does Humour..”? All these various aspects, are actually enabling the ( possibly ) interested to learn about it.
- Compare ZFT with the people supporting Charlie Haden, a man ( jazz double bass) with an equal status in music. I’ve just got a mail message from his site ( his wife). It focuses on the series of his upcoming concerts scheduled to take place in NY, Canada & Europe. It says: “CH fans - i e those who subscribed on his iste - recieve a 20% dicount”. The better way to enlerge audiences. And, yes, the CH Haden family is now living in LA / Ca / US as well.
June 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm » Quote
A quote from urbangraffito:
To be honest, I actually like the look of that cover. See what Gnarly said about it above. Also: FZ looks uncharacteristically, I dunno… sad in it, no? As for what’s on the cd itself: how about we separate ZFT-tactics from the essential, which is FZ’s music? I thought “Buffalo” was a great release, as was “FZ:OZ”. This one looks to be equally interesting. See, I refuse to become a bitter old man. It makes vengeance taste all the more sweet.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:11 pm » Quote
I agree about the cover: it sucks and it is something they could’ve made themselves, which is probably why they did it that way (save money). I bet there are only the bare minimum of liner notes to satisfy the label and a lawyer or three. It’ll be up a fan to figure out where these performances come from and to do their work for them, as per usual.
I mean, if they want fans to buy this shit, give some history of the recordings and pay someone to make a cover worthy of the music. Someone who isn’t a Zappamaniac is going to see this thing in a music store and say, WTF is this? And the cd won’t tell them shit until they buy it, nor will the website.
Just moronic and shitty behavior by a freaky lady who obviously has contempt for the fans of her late husband.
On the bright side, I saw ZPZ last night and it was a good show, again. It was real heavy on Joes Garage material and D nailed the guitar sound. He soloed alot though - it was a very nooodley show and I saw Sheila looking bored or tired. But, it was sold out and we had a great time. Last years tours I think I liked better, as they had a better balance of composed music like Uncle Meat, Eat That Q, plus the ’songs’ like Gas Station and U. Remus, and then the guitar shredding material like Cosmic Debris…but at least they are changing it up.
June 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pm » Quote
A quote from Carlin:
Carlin: The Akismet anti-spam plugin considered your post to be, erh, spam (probably because you posted a link). I fish out the bonafide comments whenever I can, but you know, I need to grab some sleep every so often!
June 14th, 2008 at 6:59 pm » Quote
I’ve just remembered something Dw said a few weeks ago somewhere:
It’s a sampler
.
Dweezil says it includes one of the first versions of yellow snow, some guitar solos FZ had recorded and “some orchestral stuff.” He says “it’s really good” and notes FZ has a lot of fun on it, laughing quite bit.
Now I have a feeling that most of this stuff are guitar solos - maybe even Rollo?… -, so that might be the reason for the strange sounding titles. And Heidelberg must be a solo from ‘78 (from the Guitar Hernia cassette, I think) - since the ZFT calles this release “nr. 93″ (at barfkoswill, instead of 83), i simply think 1987 also to be a mistake.
But what might “sampler” mean here?
June 14th, 2008 at 10:45 pm » Quote
Dear Asshole Fans,
Kiss mine here.
Yours, Joe ntj
June 14th, 2008 at 11:53 pm » Quote
A quote from Joe ntj:
It seems you’re too busy right now kissing someone else’s Joe. This asshole fan will come back later when it’s less crowded.
June 15th, 2008 at 12:15 am » Quote
hate
1. to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry.
2. to be unwilling; dislike: I hate to do it.
crit·i·cize
1. to censure or find fault with.
2. to judge or discuss the merits and faults of: to criticize three novels in one review.
3. to find fault; judge unfavorably or harshly.
4. to make judgments as to merits and faults.
KUR never has been, and never will be, an anti-FZ site. There’s a big difference between hatred and criticism which covers a lot of ground. Personally, there is nothing that GZ or the ZFT could possibly do that would turn me off of Frank Zappa’s music one single iota. If they or their henchmen can’t handle a little honest criticism from they who have paid for everything that they presently possess, well, BOO HOO.
Open minds discuss. Closed minds, censor.
June 15th, 2008 at 9:56 am » Quote
Amen to that!
- signed Epstein’s mother
June 15th, 2008 at 2:14 pm » Quote
A quote from urbangraffito:
Agree and don’t agree. ‘Dub Room’ (the cover!) was lousy, ‘Wazoo’ was awful, ‘Trance-Fusion’ and ‘Läther’ hard on the edge. Loved Mofo, Buffo, OZ, Quaudi, EIHN, the Groening album and all the rest (and that includes, one and for all, The Mystery Disk (dig it!). Ah, wanna know another one that is REALLY dreadful (at least judging from the pics I’ve seen…)?? — Palladium 81 TTNS - one and a half minutes of delirious Photoshop cluelessness, bah!
love, braxtanplan
June 15th, 2008 at 3:49 pm » Quote
A quote from Hugh:
……. BRIAN EPSTEIN’S MOTHER!? haha
June 15th, 2008 at 6:57 pm » Quote
Oh, guys and gals. You are all so damn good at finding something bad. The world doesn’t look as if you all are so good at your own thing as you demand everyone else to be. Where is your work at display for arbiters like you? I don’t think you would judge the releases the way you are doing if Zappa himself released them himself. But go on … have your fun
June 15th, 2008 at 7:20 pm » Quote
“One Shot Deal”
I tried to read the credits with the black light next to the very hip water pipe I used to use but was unable to read it.
This is a great release. Totally out of the blue, nobody was expecting it. My favorite is Track #4 Trudgin’ Across the Tundra (4:01), a jazzy drone in 7 featuring (I think because I can’t read the credits on the CD. To small with not enough contrast with the background) Bruce Fowler on Trombone solo. The whole CD is great. The crdits inside the CD could have been formatted better so people (Old folks like me who love ZAPPA) can read the credits, but the music is wonderful.
I’m still looking online for the credits. Cease & Desist letters aside, this is a wonderful Album that I highly recommend.
June 15th, 2008 at 7:37 pm » Quote
Schlecktones, I would love to hear a few more details about the music on the disc before buying it. What era are the tracks from? Is much of the music guitar solos and instrumental improv? That would be a good thing (Brax - I think the cover to Trance-Fusion is a pretty neat image) Any info would be appreciated.
June 15th, 2008 at 8:42 pm » Quote
‘Trance-’ — got used to it, but a deranged Schenkel design would’ve done so much better (imagine: Butter or Cannons ;))
June 15th, 2008 at 9:41 pm » Quote
I’ve gotten used to Cal Schenkel as an element of Zappa’s Conceptual Continuity, and as a real reflection of the Zappa aesthetic, but his drawing style makes my brain itch (a good example is the Gypsy Vacuum Cleaner in the “Chunga’s” gatefold), as do the combines on the covers of Uncle Meat and Burnt Weenie Sandwich. I was disappointed when I had to re-buy TBBYNHIYL without the original copyright-infringement photo on the cover. De gustibus non disputandum est. My concept of “good cover art” has gotten pretty slack anyway. I’ve never adjusted to the death of vinyl, and when The Grateful Dead started issuing really good music with basically identical covers that look like an old box of Ampeg reel to reel tape, I was fine with it as long as the music was good. I’d be much more inclined to buy new Zappa releases if they could be bought at a local record store w/o S&H, and there was more info about the content. I mean, which bands are represented on the new release? Are some of the tracks just comedic stage patter that are mildly amusing the first time, and would be better as hidden bonus track material ? (what could “Space Boogers” be? an abbreviated guitar solo? A one shot deal moog solo by George Duke from a ‘74 Inca Roads, or a one shot deal piece of… “comedy” a la “The Booger Man” from YCDTOSA Vol. 4?)
June 15th, 2008 at 10:19 pm » Quote
Ooh, new Zappa, it’s much more exciting to know you’re gonna get it for free (bit torrent)- fuck Sloatman: release whatever the Hell you want, just dont expect people to BUY everything with and F and a Z on it.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:21 pm » Quote
A quote from Propellerkuh:
We are not “finding something bad” as you suggest Propellerkuh. Rather, we are holding the ZFT up to the very standards they set for themselves when GZ states in interviews that they are so concerned with FZ’s artistic integrity (while doing the exact opposite). Are we then to be faulted for pointing out their inconsistencies? FZ had a certain standard of excellence. Is it so much to ask that his heirs suck it up and start to measure up?
June 16th, 2008 at 1:34 am » Quote
One Shot Deal
OK. Here we go.
1 - Bathtub Man (5:43)
This is a blues number with the basic Roxy band playing. The tune comes in somewhere after the beginning, probably because of a tape change during the live performance. George Duke plays the first solo then Frank plays his solo. Frank’s solo on his track alone is worth the purchase price, but wait. That’s not all. Not only do you get the Desinex Burger.
2 - Space Boogers (1:24)
Really cool avant guard strangeness with Frank on guitar, George Duke on keys, and Chester Thompson on drums.
3 - Hermitage (2:00)
Wazoo ensemble, Avant Guard, Frank conducting.
4 - Trudging’ Across the Tundra (4:01)
My earlier statement that I thought it was Bruce Fowler on trombone is incorrect. This is the Petite Wazoo band with Tony Duran on guitar. It’s a really beautiful jazz improv foundation in 7. You can hear other brass and winds in the background. Frank is conducting. At the end you can hear Frank say, ‘Thank you. That sounded pretty good”.
5 - Occam’s Razor (9:11)
This piece is the original unedited solo that was used in the piece entitled ‘On The Bus’ on Joe’s Garage Act 1. The solo was isolated and superimposed over the wet t shirt version on Joe’s Garage in a process that Frank invented known as xenochrony. On One ‘Shot Deal’ we hear the original unedited guitar solo.
6 - Heidelberg *1987 (4:46)
This was originally released on a Cassette called, ‘The Guitar World According To Frank Zappa”. I still have the cassette but don’t know if it survived in good shape. It’s a beautiful guitar solo.
7 - The Illinois Enema Bandit (9:27)
This is the audio from the same performance on the DVD ‘The Torture Never Stops’ recorded Halloween 1981 at the Palladium in NYC.
8 - Australian Yellow Snow (12:26)
The Roxy Band. Probably an earlier version before they recorded it in the studio for Apostrophe (’). Frank does some humorous dialogue.
9 - Rollo (2:57)
Wazoo ensemble, Avant Guard, Frank conducting.
June 16th, 2008 at 2:25 am » Quote
Thanks for taking the time to do that. It sounds great.
June 16th, 2008 at 5:27 am » Quote
Honestly, it sounds less than essential. The ZFT have missed the boat with these types of grab bag releases… so much FZ material exists in the public domain, of maybe not great audio quality, but enough that this sort of rehash isn’t terribly exciting.
They got it right with Wazoo and Buffalo.. those were unkown elements. This is just some more FZ stuff he had lying around at best, maybe intended for playing on the radio or whatever.
So what about “Dance Me This” or “Rage and The Fury”?
June 16th, 2008 at 3:41 pm » Quote
Well, at least one thing has remained the same since Frank was around - the length of his releases. With albums like Lumpy Gravy, I’m ok with the fact that it is relatively short, but some albums like Drowning witch were really too short, imo, to warrant a full release. Anyway, that’s nitpicking, I know.
But today, with the length of archival releases by most any rock band, a relatively short release like this is just lame. If they are going to throw together a random mix like this then make it 70 or 80 minutes and add some worthy liner notes!! It really isn’t much to ask. Elvis Costello, the Velvet Underground, Neil young, Grateful Dead, etc all are examples of the ‘more is better and let’s reward our fanbase with a cool rerelease type business plan’.
The ZFT is still using the ‘1987 style release an LP length cd with no reason to buy it other than the cassette or LP than the fact that you don’t have to flip it to play side 2′ style of marketing. Pink Floyd are another band that don’t do much for fans with their rereleases, but that may be due to embarrasement over what is left in their vault…
Anyway, I’m intrigued to hear this but I’m not excited enough to buy it at the Barfko price.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:48 pm » Quote
What’s the problem with Gail releasing multiple recordings per year?
I think it’s wonderful. Frank use to do that. I think she is doing a great job. She is putting it out there. Take it or leave it. That’s up to you.
Gail supported Frank and took care of the house and kids to make time for Frank to compose and work. If it weren’t for Gail, Frank would not have been able to produce so much material in such a short amount of time. Give her a break. And if you really want to get down to the nitty gritty, the music you have heard that you claim is in the ‘Public Domain’ is not in the public domain at all. Those boots are all intellectual property protected by U.S. and International Copyright law. So yeah. Go ahead. Buy what Gail is releasing if you want. It you don’t like it, don’t buy it, but don’t have an online conniption fit about it.
June 16th, 2008 at 4:05 pm » Quote
A quote from schlecktones.com:
Is that a Studebaker? No? Well, fuck you, too!
June 16th, 2008 at 6:40 pm » Quote
A quote from schlecktones.com:
Avantguarde - YEAH! More of it! Get me some ‘69 stuff!
Gonna love that One Shot album a lot. Great cover this time around, intriguing setlist, Ponty (holy shit!)and even a few more WAZOO extravaganzas
schlecktones - you rule!
braxtohermit
June 16th, 2008 at 10:59 pm » Quote
why is this image of vultures circling in my mind’s, i, ‘m not sure, though carrion with e-scapes of music sounds interesting enough. $1.50 a track, 3 tracks for half an ow, er um, $16 ain’t much dough. i like the doubt in the cover, and also the doubt of the cover.
June 20th, 2008 at 2:20 am » Quote
Occam’s Razor is something i’ve always wanted to hear - that solo from ‘On The Bus’ is just ridiculous, i think i’ll crap myself when i hear it in it’s original context.
hopefully it’ll be like first hearing the solo from “Keep it Greasy”/JG in its original context as the solo for “Outside Now”/Guitar. another mind-blower was when i get my hands on YCDTOSA 2, after only knowing the “Inca Roads” solo from OSFA.
… wait for the torrent, or support the cause?
@schlecktones: thanks for the run-down, yo! very much appreciated!
June 20th, 2008 at 5:40 pm » Quote
A quote from lronhoover:
Support the cause, wait for the torrent!
June 20th, 2008 at 8:56 pm » Quote
The front cover looks fine to me. Kind of minimalistic and nice. (WAY better than Buffalo´s or Joe´s Xmassage´s among others)
What sucks is the absolute lack of information about the origin of this material provided in the OFFICIAL Zappa web page.
What I´m sure about is that this is (once again) NOT a live recording of 1968/69 Mothers Of Invention. I suppose I have to keep on waiting (in vain, maybe?)
June 22nd, 2008 at 5:15 am » Quote
I just Received OSD and would like to put in my two cents. Well its good because its new Zappa music ( kinda ) . Its bad cause its like a tease and really short. Essential, no. But enjoyable. It leaves a bad taste in your mouth after all that has happened with ZFT over the last year. maybe if I had not known about Gail’s crap I wouldn’t care but I do. From the ZFT perspective its like this , Lets thrown the fans a bone ( not a big bone , we gotta keep em hungry) and lets make some profit in the process…….
The music. - Ocam’s is an Inca solo circa 79′ (haven’t heard any of those lately) I
Space Boogers and Hermitage are avant garde to say the least, seems like group improv with frank conducting and indicated certain passages.
Trudgin’ - Best thing on the record as far as I am concerned. This kinda of stuff rivals any jazz-fusion band of the early 70’s
Bathtub Man -as we know a blues jam from the roxy band. Could be Cosmik but not sure. However this jams cooks and simmers with best rock blues in the world. This band really new how play the blues!! Its good.
Heidelberg *1987 - Frank solo, not much to say here. has a ship ahoy feel.
Rollo - Good composition, different that imaginary disease’s version. Pretty good track.
Yellow snow _ early version of snow->nanook->st. alphonso
its actually cool to see how this tune progressed.
enema bandit- uh its on TTNS, whatever
thanks for reading
June 22nd, 2008 at 5:28 pm » Quote
A quote from Potatohead Peccary:
Well, keep in mind that the edit on Yellow Snow cuts out a lot of stuff from the actual performance, including most of the instrumental sections. So I don’t think it gives one a good sense of how this song progressed.
June 23rd, 2008 at 3:33 pm » Quote
A quote from Potatohead Peccary:
I did not know there was a lot of edits. I was referring to the different arrangement and how the song progressed over time to become what is heard on Apostrophe. The first part has a much more obvious 7/8 groove, and the melody is a variation of what yellow show would become. the same came be said St. Alfonzo. Also Franks vocals and the rhythmic accents he uses are still in development in this version.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:50 pm » Quote
Hey all Zappa fans. I found the coolest retro Zappa t-shirts. At http://www.wornfree.com they reproduce shirts that Zappa famously wore. My favorite is the B’Wana Dik T-Shirt. Check them out, they are really cool
June 25th, 2008 at 11:57 am » Quote
GZ at gz.com’s forum:
“good to know as we are working on a minimum of four more releases this year . . .”
June 25th, 2008 at 2:17 pm » Quote
I am working on taking a dump today.
June 25th, 2008 at 9:25 pm » Quote
A quote from Balint:
I read the same, she was also talkin’ about download subscriptions, or something like this..
June 26th, 2008 at 1:29 pm » Quote
I did it! I did it! Gawd, I feel much better now. Wait a minute - she’s got her own website. I don’t have a website. I want a website. Some dude from Scotland stole my website. I feel like haggis.
June 27th, 2008 at 3:00 am » Quote
A quote from Joe ntj:
Try some roughage first: The Frank Zappa AAAFNRAA Birthday Bundle (tracks 6 to 11, that is). They are just about enough to give me, a life-long Zappa freak, a case of the wet-shits.
June 27th, 2008 at 10:36 am » Quote
A quote from Balint:
I bet one of them WON’T be the Roxy DVD!
June 27th, 2008 at 2:57 pm » Quote
A quote from urbangraffito:
there ya go, let’s bring this thing down to MY level - asshole fans fur-sure!
meanwhile…
A quote from Jamez:
…there’s a Roxy DVD? that oughtta be COOOL! Has anyone told DZ’s mom?
June 28th, 2008 at 4:21 am » Quote
A quote from Joe ntj:
I’m an ASSHOLE FAN and PROUD of IT!!!!
meanwhile…
Roxy DVD? Enough about the Roxy DVD, already. It’s not forthcoming. It’s only a tool to keep fans of FZ like fish on the proverbial line for as long as possible and sell them one product after another (because, hey kids, Roxy is just around the corner).
June 28th, 2008 at 3:32 pm » Quote
on the tune occams razor can anybody rerify that dave logeman is the drummer on the one shot deal cd and not vinnie colaiuta, i think that vinnies not the drummer on this tune please help anybody.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:56 pm » Quote
hi noel since the recording is from march ‘79 it is definitely Vinnie Colaiuta and now I’d like to talk about David Logenman a bit but it is so hard to start another thought or another sentence without using punctuation that I can hardly finish this at all aaaaaaagghhhh…. (falls into the deep)
June 29th, 2008 at 1:44 am » Quote
Forgive me if this sounds naive, but ZFT needs to pay attention to what Pearl Jam, Phish and the Grateful Dead have been doing. There’s apparently a shit-ton of complete FZ shows in the vault, why in the hell can’t they be released in their entirety? Look at the Dead’s Dick’s Picks series. Find the best of the best, and put them out there. What exactly is preventing this from happening?
June 29th, 2008 at 1:33 pm » Quote
“they simply do not contain Zappa” was once Gail answer to a question like yours… (?)
June 29th, 2008 at 9:02 pm » Quote
A quote from Sterbus:
Great answer. As we all know, Zappa is more that just Zappa. Zappa is Don Preston, George Lowell, Buz & Bunk, Brock, Ponty, Duke, Underwood(s), Willis, Mars, Chester, Logenman, Colaiuta et. al. Gail in her ultimate ignorance must think that Frank must be playing in order for him to be present. This simply isn’t true. Each time I hear a Tommy Mars solo on “A Pound For A Brown” I hear Zappa in every note. Frankly, any Zappa freak could make better choices than the ZFT does, in my opinion.
June 30th, 2008 at 7:01 pm » Quote
“All Titles Produced by FZ
Just when you thought it was safe
to go back in the water . . .
Makes its own sauce!
Shocking summer surprise for no reason at all!”
I’m so fucking sick of these smarmy, uniformative blurbs all over zappa dot com. Whatever happened to informing the fans? Do they need Keneally to write for their site? He’s a notoriously verbose liner note writer…
June 30th, 2008 at 7:02 pm » Quote
“uninformative.” That’s what I meant to type.
June 30th, 2008 at 7:13 pm » Quote
The ZFT doesn’t realize that Zappa fans are similar to fans of the Ellington & Basie bands, in that as much as they appreciate the band leaders, they’re also listening for Johnny Hodges, Ray Nanace, Lester Young and Jimmy Rushing. Only FZ could have made it possible for the monster improvs by his sidemen.
June 30th, 2008 at 7:21 pm » Quote
A quote from Chris:
…which one of you assholes got sauce on my cap? I told you long ago, it’s not a potholder!
July 1st, 2008 at 9:52 pm » Quote
HI, Yàll,
What does Gail mean with “conatins no Zappa”? Did she mean by that that the stuff in the basement is not good enough?
Did she analyize the whole basement? She the great music-expert? Or do understand it wrong?
I will buy OSD. I don´t care if she is a bitch. I don´t like her either, and I can see why FZ has prefer to stay away from her and stick to his basement. With a wife like her, you are forced to go in your basement, and spend so much time with dringing or recording and playing music. Anyway, righto, Without her FZ wouldn´t have the time to do all this stuff. Thanks to her, but she did many things I don´t understand.
I hope she will realease: Rage & Fury, dance me this, an evening with WMF (but she won´t, since he drew a beer bottle at Moon once), Ruben & the Jets in the original mix.
The person who knows best about the basement is not she, but Joe Travers. It´s his job. What a great job. I wish I were him. I would lock myself in that basement with lots of food and beer, and turn up the volume to the point where the whole house would be shaking.
Jeezis….
July 1st, 2008 at 10:21 pm » Quote
No no… she was only meaning that Grateful Dead and other shared stuff is crap compared with Zappa, so for them is easy to release everything, but not for her.
I’ll find soon the exact Gail quote, but it will be almost impossible…
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:26 pm » Quote
Thanks for the information. Anyway, I will buy this CD. Actually I could download it, but I prefer original Cds when it comes to our all Uncle Frank. Will write more later.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 8:48 pm »