Comments on: Boys Are Back In Town http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/ Frank Zappa & Elsewhere Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:24:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Alex http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/#comment-1147 Alex Tue, 13 May 2008 08:41:57 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/?p=96#comment-1147 Last time I was at the forum the big debate was whether or not FZ was circumcised; a female fan was curious for the sake of a sexual fantasy. Yeah...it's a real intellectual vibe over there. Last time I was at the forum the big debate was whether or not FZ was circumcised; a female fan was curious for the sake of a sexual fantasy.

Yeah…it’s a real intellectual vibe over there.

]]> By: Chris http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/#comment-1069 Chris Thu, 08 May 2008 18:11:49 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/?p=96#comment-1069 [quote comment="1000"]And if your aim is to increase awareness of FZ's music then shouldn't you be encouraging as many people as possible to play it?[/quote] That sums up quite nicely, in one sentence, what infuriates me so much about the ZFT and their rampant litigation. A quote from xorg:

And if your aim is to increase awareness of FZ’s music then shouldn’t you be encouraging as many people as possible to play it?

That sums up quite nicely, in one sentence, what infuriates me so much about the ZFT and their rampant litigation.

]]> By: DonvanVliet http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/#comment-1063 DonvanVliet Thu, 08 May 2008 10:32:44 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/?p=96#comment-1063 Well I was reading some topics today on the official zappa forum and what I saw there is exactly what happens on most forums. People don't understand eachother because of using the wrong smilies, no smilies or a language problem so that posts can easely be interpreted wrong. It's allways the same, some "forum professors think that they have the right to post anything they want without thinking about the consequenses. I think the moderators have some time off there because they do nothing to prevent that. Well I was reading some topics today on the official zappa forum and what I saw there is exactly what happens on most forums. People don’t understand eachother because of using the wrong smilies, no smilies or a language problem so that posts can easely be interpreted wrong.
It’s allways the same, some “forum professors think that they have the right to post anything they want without thinking about the consequenses.
I think the moderators have some time off there because they do nothing to prevent that.

]]> By: Roland http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/#comment-1018 Roland Tue, 06 May 2008 12:37:35 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/?p=96#comment-1018 Okay Barry, I´ll take your advice and relax. :-) Okay Barry, I´ll take your advice and relax. :-)

]]> By: Barry's Imaginary Publisher http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/#comment-1017 Barry's Imaginary Publisher Tue, 06 May 2008 12:16:30 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/?p=96#comment-1017 Hey Roland, I understand where you're coming from but... c'mon let's all relax a bit, okay? Urban's got strong views and he's got a pretty direct way of expressing them. I may not always agree, but so what? He's got every right to say what he wants -- and so does everyone else here for that matter. I guess I shouldn't have posted that silly "Sloatman" entry -- it's what seems to have set off this whole thing... <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=5513mXmQbw4" rel="nofollow">Serenity now!</a> ;) Hey Roland, I understand where you’re coming from but… c’mon let’s all relax a bit, okay? Urban’s got strong views and he’s got a pretty direct way of expressing them. I may not always agree, but so what? He’s got every right to say what he wants — and so does everyone else here for that matter. I guess I shouldn’t have posted that silly “Sloatman” entry — it’s what seems to have set off this whole thing…

Serenity now! ;)

]]> By: Roland http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/#comment-1016 Roland Tue, 06 May 2008 12:08:40 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/?p=96#comment-1016 Urbangraffito wrote "Seems like we’re on our own folks" and this is it: He just wants to hear himself. He ascend the pulpit and prays his point of view to it all. And if you make the mistake and go for your own opinion, he prays that you´re wrong: This must be his catholic upbringing. On one hand, one finds the offer for a t-shirt "Stop Gail" here at KUR and on the other hand you´re blamed, if you have a stronger opinion. Think about it. The KUR blog might become a pretty lonely place, just because "Mr. I know it all - and even better" cuts most of the other bloggers off in his very particular arrogant way of argueing against everthing that is not his own perspective. Urbangraffito wrote “Seems like we’re on our own folks” and this is it: He just wants to hear himself. He ascend the pulpit and prays his point of view to it all. And if you make the mistake and go for your own opinion, he prays that you´re wrong: This must be his catholic upbringing. On one hand, one finds the offer for a t-shirt “Stop Gail” here at KUR and on the other hand you´re blamed, if you have a stronger opinion. Think about it. The KUR blog might become a pretty lonely place, just because “Mr. I know it all - and even better” cuts most of the other bloggers off in his very particular arrogant way of argueing against everthing that is not his own perspective.

]]> By: D. Weasel http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/#comment-1015 D. Weasel Tue, 06 May 2008 11:49:08 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/?p=96#comment-1015 ...you can't handle the truth! …you can’t handle the truth!

]]> By: bernard http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/#comment-1014 bernard Tue, 06 May 2008 11:06:53 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/?p=96#comment-1014 Yes, Urb., let's put down arms. It's difficult t be the son of a master. Compare it with the deconstructing : - Ravi Coltrane , John's son. He just keeps inventing new combinations. - Bach's sons. They're plentiful. And - way back then, instantly - they were much more succesful than their father. Personally I like the youngest one, the Londener Johann Chrisitian. It was the Rococo style, an exagerration of Barock, announcing something complety new. The best thing that could happen to DZ is to take a distance from his band ZPZ, being " Dweezil Z & the 10 orphans". Yes, Urb., let’s put down arms.

It’s difficult t be the son of a master.

Compare it with the deconstructing :

- Ravi Coltrane , John’s son. He just keeps inventing new combinations.
- Bach’s sons. They’re plentiful. And - way back then, instantly - they were much more succesful than their father. Personally I like the youngest one, the Londener Johann Chrisitian. It was the Rococo style, an exagerration of Barock, announcing something complety new.

The best thing that could happen to DZ is to take a distance from his band ZPZ, being ” Dweezil Z & the 10 orphans”.

]]> By: urbangraffito http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/#comment-1013 urbangraffito Tue, 06 May 2008 10:52:44 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/?p=96#comment-1013 [quote comment="1005"]I agree, but I'd love to hear from Dweezil directly concerning the C & D stuff, et al...ZPZ is ok, but it ain't Frank![/quote] The fact that we haven't heard from the Dweez concerning the C & D shit speaks volumes to me. He is complicit with his mother's actions by his very silence on this matter. A quote from Rob:

I agree, but I’d love to hear from Dweezil directly concerning the C & D stuff, et al…ZPZ is ok, but it ain’t Frank!

The fact that we haven’t heard from the Dweez concerning the C & D shit speaks volumes to me. He is complicit with his mother’s actions by his very silence on this matter.

]]> By: bernard http://www.killuglyradio.com/2008/05/05/boys-are-back-in-town/#comment-1012 bernard Tue, 06 May 2008 10:48:23 +0000 http://www.killuglyradio.com/?p=96#comment-1012 That's the result of being a musician both - playing a song called " Titties & Beer" and - conducting his scores with the Ensemble Modern. " Idiots " and university professors. Both. A renaissance man, why? Going back in musical history : this is about reinventing things that were considered normal till +/ - the second half of the 18th century, when the classical period ( Haydn, Mozart, Van Beethoven) took over. The last great one who combined low & high was J. S. Bach. Just listen to his Weltliche Cantates: it's about smoking, drinking, chasing women, etc. And the very instructive simple scores he wrote for his first wife & the family: the Notenbuchlein. Way back then J. S. Bach soon understood that the only way to survive ( he had 22 children) was to endeavor getting payed by the rulers ( and +/- rich of that period ): a Churh ( Leipzig). FZ was confronted with new Rulers: the US & word wide commercial world. My idea is : we should be very greatful to the Germans, who offered him this ( expensive for them ) opportunity. And on a local Belgian note: a couple of years before the Ens. Mod. experience The Festival Of Flanders offered him exactly the same opportunity. He denied the offer as he didn' t have time to deliver. Check it out, it's a true story. Ahead of their times. That’s the result of being a musician both
- playing a song called ” Titties & Beer” and
- conducting his scores with the Ensemble Modern.

” Idiots ” and university professors.
Both. A renaissance man, why?

Going back in musical history : this is about reinventing things that were considered normal till +/ - the second half of the 18th century, when the classical period ( Haydn, Mozart, Van Beethoven) took over.
The last great one who combined low & high was J. S. Bach. Just listen to his Weltliche Cantates: it’s about smoking, drinking, chasing women, etc. And the very instructive simple scores he wrote for his first wife & the family: the Notenbuchlein.

Way back then J. S. Bach soon understood that the only way to survive ( he had 22 children) was to endeavor getting payed by the rulers ( and +/- rich of that period ): a Churh ( Leipzig).

FZ was confronted with new Rulers: the US & word wide commercial world. My idea is : we should be very greatful to the Germans, who offered him this ( expensive for them ) opportunity.
And on a local Belgian note: a couple of years before the Ens. Mod. experience The Festival Of Flanders offered him exactly the same opportunity. He denied the offer as he didn’ t have time to deliver. Check it out, it’s a true story.
Ahead of their times.

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